Wanna see my new model 28-2
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Stephen A. Camp
Staff In Memoriam
Hello, sir. Veeeeeeeeeeeery nice. You have fine revolver there.
Best.
Best.
m14nut...
NICE lookin' revolver ya got there son.
We had a thread going where someone who will remain anonymous tried to say that the M28 was a "cheap" version of the M27. Well, a bunch of us M28 owners crawled all over him for his intemperate remarks. I have both and consider both to be fine examples of a great idea.
NICE lookin' revolver ya got there son.
We had a thread going where someone who will remain anonymous tried to say that the M28 was a "cheap" version of the M27. Well, a bunch of us M28 owners crawled all over him for his intemperate remarks. I have both and consider both to be fine examples of a great idea.
Mike Irwin
Staff
Frosty, did you know my Model 28 is made of lead? 
Radicalcleric
New member
Let it go, guys. You've made it clear that your opinions are the only ones that count and I can live with that. You don't need to keep beating a dead horse.
m14nut- The grips are pretty.
m14nut- The grips are pretty.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"You've made it clear that your opinions are the only ones that count..."
Uh, yeah, pretty much...
Don't you feel the same way about your opinions?
If we didn't hold fast to our opinions, and changed them willy-nilly, know what we'd be?
Politicians.
Uh, yeah, pretty much...
Don't you feel the same way about your opinions?
If we didn't hold fast to our opinions, and changed them willy-nilly, know what we'd be?
Politicians.
Radicalcleric
New member
I can be swayed when evidence is forthcoming. But when people say a satin finsih is every bit as deluxe as a high-polish finish, that is contrary to what the manufacturer says, what the company historian says, and what every serious author and collector says. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't expect me to agree with you when your arguments have no factual basis.
Now, let's move on please. We don't want to hi-jack another thread with a discussion that will never end.
Now, let's move on please. We don't want to hi-jack another thread with a discussion that will never end.
Mike Irwin
Staff
Your original thread, and reasoning, was a nightmare of imprecise logic, poorly defined terms, and incredible generalizations, and an impenetrable fixation for equating "cheap" with lacking in quality, and "expensive" as being higher quality.
By that logic, cars made in Detroit in the 1970s should have been the world's greatest cars, especially when compared to those cheap Japanese imports.
Funny thing was, however, that American expense bought you lousy fit, lousy finish, lousy mechanical reliability, lousy styling, lousy ergonomics, lousy gas mileage, lousy long-term durability, ad infinitum.
Those cheap (lacking in quality?) Japanese imports, on the other hand? Evaluated on price alone, they must have been horrible... Funny thing was, though, they were head and shoulders above American cars in so many categories it wasn't even funny.
That was my problem with it.
And, as Frenchy notes, you now throw yet ANOTHER new term into the mix, which further clouds the water.
Is the satin finish a delux finish? No. It's not.
But a satin finish isn't lead, either. Nor is a "delux" finish gold.
By that logic, cars made in Detroit in the 1970s should have been the world's greatest cars, especially when compared to those cheap Japanese imports.
Funny thing was, however, that American expense bought you lousy fit, lousy finish, lousy mechanical reliability, lousy styling, lousy ergonomics, lousy gas mileage, lousy long-term durability, ad infinitum.
Those cheap (lacking in quality?) Japanese imports, on the other hand? Evaluated on price alone, they must have been horrible... Funny thing was, though, they were head and shoulders above American cars in so many categories it wasn't even funny.
That was my problem with it.
And, as Frenchy notes, you now throw yet ANOTHER new term into the mix, which further clouds the water.
Is the satin finish a delux finish? No. It's not.
But a satin finish isn't lead, either. Nor is a "delux" finish gold.
I don't want to stir things up (OK maybe a little) but I had a choice a couple of months ago between a 28 and a 27 in about the same condition. I chose the 27 because it does have a nicer finish and at the time it was made was a more expensive gun than the 28. All other things being equal ( including the asking price) I would go for the 27 every time. Now, if a 28 comes up that is in nice condition I would really consider it, but there are a lot of guns on my wish list. If I could only have one, it would be a 27. Still looking for a K-22, K-38 etc...
BTW, really nice example of 28 you bought. It seems to have a fairly deep finish. I have noticed that some model 28's have a finish that is matte, some satin and some are close to a high gloss blue finish.
Here is a link to a picture of my 27 - I also like the front sights that most 27's came with compared to the 28's.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1174292
BTW, really nice example of 28 you bought. It seems to have a fairly deep finish. I have noticed that some model 28's have a finish that is matte, some satin and some are close to a high gloss blue finish.
Here is a link to a picture of my 27 - I also like the front sights that most 27's came with compared to the 28's.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1174292
Mike Irwin...
"Frosty, did you know my Model 28 is made of lead?"
Well, yes I did Mike. Or at least, six important pieces of your Model 28!
On a more positive side, I went to the Springfield (Mass) Gun Show yesterday and counted at least six Model 28s for sale. From about $329 to $400 IIRC. Most were about NRA Good, one had a bad finish (looked abused), and about three looked liked good buys. A fair amount of S&W M12s, 36s, a one or two 37s and a bunch of 60s. I was also looking at a couple of nice 4" M29/629s.
Until IT caught my eye.
A little used, pre-ban Glock 21 with one hi-cap mag. Scarce as hen's teeth these are lately around here.
So I went big bore instead of classic.
Out on the range about two hours later I was a VERY happy shooter!
"Frosty, did you know my Model 28 is made of lead?"
Well, yes I did Mike. Or at least, six important pieces of your Model 28!
On a more positive side, I went to the Springfield (Mass) Gun Show yesterday and counted at least six Model 28s for sale. From about $329 to $400 IIRC. Most were about NRA Good, one had a bad finish (looked abused), and about three looked liked good buys. A fair amount of S&W M12s, 36s, a one or two 37s and a bunch of 60s. I was also looking at a couple of nice 4" M29/629s.
Until IT caught my eye.
A little used, pre-ban Glock 21 with one hi-cap mag. Scarce as hen's teeth these are lately around here.
So I went big bore instead of classic.
Out on the range about two hours later I was a VERY happy shooter!
Frenchy's reference was to a similar post on the Smith forum
As far as I've been able to read and research, the 27 and 28 were exactly the same gun, short of the checkering on the rib of the barrel and the fancy blue. According to the Smith "catalog" they were produced this way to offer a less expensive "value".
Beauty is in the eye of the .......................guy who owns the 28
It's still a 1979 rock solid-no LOCK-tack drivin'-real firing pin usin' honest to goodness SMITH
N frames are "da bomb" boooyyyyzzzzzzzz!
As far as I've been able to read and research, the 27 and 28 were exactly the same gun, short of the checkering on the rib of the barrel and the fancy blue. According to the Smith "catalog" they were produced this way to offer a less expensive "value".
Beauty is in the eye of the .......................guy who owns the 28
It's still a 1979 rock solid-no LOCK-tack drivin'-real firing pin usin' honest to goodness SMITH
N frames are "da bomb" boooyyyyzzzzzzzz!
Took my new-to-me 1976 28-2 to the range for a 200 round spin yesterday and was absolutely thrilled with it. I was shooting 158 grain sjsp ammo. Out of most of the groups, several rounds went through dang near the same hole. I have NEVER been able to shoot so well with any other pistol I have ever owned. I had several older guys come up and ask to see it and try it.
I have a t-grip on the way for it and an Allessi hideout also. This WILL be my new carry gun for sure.
One thing that struck me as odd was that I was shooting double action just about as well as single action for some reason. Though the single action has no slack in it and bbreaks absolutely clean, the double action on this gun is really easy to stage up to the point where you know it is just about to break, but it still suprised me everytime it let go.
I would and will buy another m28 whenever I come across one at a great deal - and even a m27 if I find a nice one!
CANIS
I have a t-grip on the way for it and an Allessi hideout also. This WILL be my new carry gun for sure.
One thing that struck me as odd was that I was shooting double action just about as well as single action for some reason. Though the single action has no slack in it and bbreaks absolutely clean, the double action on this gun is really easy to stage up to the point where you know it is just about to break, but it still suprised me everytime it let go.
I would and will buy another m28 whenever I come across one at a great deal - and even a m27 if I find a nice one!
CANIS
glockorama
New member
m14nut---Nice lookin' revo. I wish I still had my 28, it was a great shooter. If I run across another one at a good price, I will probably snatch it.
Now on this thread I actually agree with SaxonPig. Let it go. He did, now you guys are just being vindictive. Not very classy.
Now on this thread I actually agree with SaxonPig. Let it go. He did, now you guys are just being vindictive. Not very classy.
Stephen A. Camp
Staff In Memoriam
Hello, again. As I stated before, very nice revolver. I've seen and shot many, many Model 28s over the years and they all worked. The finish is not deluxe blue like the M27 at all, but when the Texas Department of Public Safety order these things decades ago (Hence, the old name, "Highway Patrolman"), DPS was more interested in a basic dependable handgun without the "pretty." Sure, I think my Model 27's a nicer handgun, but the price a person would have to pay me to get my Model 28 would prevent most sane folks from doing it.
The reason is simple; the thing shoots tiny little groups with a variety of loads. It has that classic S&W look that I personally prefer. It has as smooth an action as my Model 27 and perfect timing.
Mine's on constant "duty," being one of a few guns that's always loaded.
I can praise a handgun no higher.
I'm keeping my eyes open for a clean, like-new or new one with a 6" bbl to compliment the 4" gun I now have and am keeping.
If that's good or foolish to others is of no importance to me nor should you let others having different opinions concerning the M28 bother you. You have a fine handgun; in my opinion, one of the finest!
Best.
PS: Let us know how it shoots.
The reason is simple; the thing shoots tiny little groups with a variety of loads. It has that classic S&W look that I personally prefer. It has as smooth an action as my Model 27 and perfect timing.
Mine's on constant "duty," being one of a few guns that's always loaded.
I can praise a handgun no higher.
I'm keeping my eyes open for a clean, like-new or new one with a 6" bbl to compliment the 4" gun I now have and am keeping.
If that's good or foolish to others is of no importance to me nor should you let others having different opinions concerning the M28 bother you. You have a fine handgun; in my opinion, one of the finest!
Best.
PS: Let us know how it shoots.