Walmart and its employee issues.

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Walmart can get away with stuff like this because too many people will turn into helpless sheep being led to the slaughter rather than demand reasonable treatment.
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We're not talking about Prague Spring here. We're talking about a simple retail transaction at Wal Mart.

It's disingenuous to expect the red carpet rolled out when one insists on the level of convenience and price they get at Wal Mart. If I want personalized service from competent professionals, I'll support local gun shops, hardware stores, and grocers.

That, or I would, except they all went out of business because everyone else decided that price and convenience were more important factors. We don't get it both ways.

They weren't using their ID for any legally mandated reason, just a Wally's rule which probably wasn't being interpreted correctly by the clerk anyway.
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You're right, but even if it doesn't result in ride to the local precinct, it could still lead to an inconvenient and awkward situation. And for what? To make a point to an underpaid clerk who doesn't care?
 
While most seem to think of some travesty that happend. The clerk apparently did not know any better. She sided on the point of covering her behind. Yes it seems senseless, and defying common logic. The clerk did not see it that way.

At the local WM here they ask for your ID if you are buying any ammo other than shot shell. They log the DL/ID card number of the person into the computer to keep people from buying the limit of ammo, then waiting till shift chage, and coming back in, and buying more.

I have not purchased ammo from Wal Mart in 5 years. I reload my own.
 
Wowow, I saw this and I am going to reply even if you others haven't adressed it yet.
By Bezoar:
it is policy, and federal. no handgun ammo unless your 21.

The cashier did nothing wrong. The cashier simply applied the alcohol/tobacco rule and checked everyone buying a controlled item. So get off the horse and learn to live with reality.
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Man you are just wrong.

First there was Mike38 and this
WalMart has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
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which is also false, little things like age, race, etc do come into play. And although Bezoar, you are right about the Federal Law, but the Federal Law does not control the company you keep while you are purchasing the ammo.
 
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It still seems that people don't understand that persons entering private do not have more rights than the persons responsible for that property, the only right that you have is to choose to spend your money. Retailers are under no obligation to have you as a customer. Most do in fact have the right to refuse service, regardless if you think it's fair or right. I've refused customers based on demeanor alone.

Policies are a minimum guideline, and you can choose to enforce in a more stringent manner if you choose.
 
Man you are just wrong.
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Actually, he isn't:

Under the GCA, long guns and long gun ammunition may be sold only to persons 18 years of age or older. Sales of handguns and ammunition for handguns are limited to persons 21 years of age and older.
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Some ammunition is interchangeable, and that can be sold if the dealer is confident it is to be used in a rifle. That's a bit of a gray area, so I can see Wal Mart going with a stricter interpretation. At any given time, the person selling the ammunition could be Gary from Sporting Goods, who's been trained, or it could be Sandy from Housewares, who isn't.
 
Showing ID

Here is south Florida no Walmart requires ID to be shown for the purchase of any AMMO, except one. One I go to this particular one I asked them why ID had to be shown at that store. Clerk stated a city law (for that store) states they must input ID information to show it was sold to person of age. Makes sense. You can have 3 stores close to one another and one is in a county or city with an additional rule for sale.
 
Lcpiper wrote:
First there was Mike38 and this

“WalMart has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.”

which is also false, little things like age, race, etc do come into play.
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Okay, okay, but I have a feeling you know what I meant. But to satisfy the masses, let me rephrase it.

WalMart has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason as long as it’s in compliance with all local, state and federal laws.

Is that better?
 
because two people came together and got ammo at the same time, its a single purchase. they both need to prove age and that they live in that state.

its store policy. Might not be policy yet in your region. but is in mine.
 
it is policy, and federal. no handgun ammo unless your 21.

The cashier did nothing wrong. The cashier simply applied the alcohol/tobacco rule and checked everyone buying a controlled item. So get off the horse and learn to live with reality.
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agreed. as some others have already pointed out, it's probably their policy so as to avoid straw purchases. the OP could've avoided the entire problem and have his wife show her ID, instead of getting into a debate about who's right and who's wrong. i'm not defending Walmart - I think they're one of the worst companies in the US, but it's their right to enforce whatever policy is necessary without breaking the law.
 
But, as others have also pointed out, what if you are with your kids (or niece, or godson)? Should the clerk card the kids? Should the purchase be denied?

That seems to be the logic in use by some posters...
 
But, as others have also pointed out, what if you are with your kids (or niece, or godson)? Should the clerk card the kids? Should the purchase be denied?
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I think we're really stretching it a bit if we're talking about being in the company of kids. If you're with someone who is clearly an adult or close to being a legal adult then they should be carded, even if it's a 17 yo pimply faced nephew with a bad teenage mustache.
 
Same problem

While it may not be against the law, Walmart can set it's policy however they choose. They refused to sell me and my wife alcohol once because her little sister was with us. It's over and above the law, but not against the law.
 
Topher127, the question is not whether they can, the question is whether their customers should make them feel a financial backlash (or a storm of angry letters to corporate) for doing so.

A related question is whether we, as a society, should place more responsibility on the bar patron who chooses to drive drunk, and less on the bartender who serves him.

The US philosophy has swung wildly (and unfortunately) to one of collective, as opposed to individual, responsibility. Policies such as Wal-Mart's are intended to shield against a third-party liability which I do not think should have any place in this country.
 
gaseousclay said:
I think we're really stretching it a bit if we're talking about being in the company of kids. If you're with someone who is clearly an adult or close to being a legal adult then they should be carded, even if it's a 17 yo pimply faced nephew with a bad teenage mustache.
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So, my kids can come in with me when I buy ammo until they're 13? or 14? or 16? and then I have to leave them in the car because now they're "close to being legal" and I might be buying illegal ammo for them?


My local WalMart doesn't even ask the questions. It comes up and says "Is it for handgun?" and "Is the buyer 21?" and they always hit "No", "Yes", without even asking.
 
Why? The buyer remains the same.

Oh, I forgot, some prefer a nanny state...
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your insults are tiresome. We're talking about store policy as well as federal and state law. arguing semantics over what age is considered suitable is pointless. When you own your own mega-corporation and sell ammo then you can determine who you sell ammo to.
 
I think we've gone as far as we can with this one. One store's policies aren't turning our country into Airstrip One, and the generalized griping about WalMart has been done. And done.
 
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