Wally World locally hiding ammo on customer?
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I buy my ammo from the local gun shop. THing is, this local gun shop succsesfully competes with Gandermountain for Selection on handguns and rifles and shotguns. They have a HUGE ammo stock with more arriving daily. I personaly shoot .38 and get it from them at about $16 a box for range ammo.
Now if i want sd/hd ammo i shop online. Sorry local gun stores but you cant compete with online sources. As stated earlier why pay $25 for a 20 round count box of sd/hd ammo when i can order online and get 50 round count box of sd/hd ammo for a lower price. When the local store can compete with that, ill buy more ammo from them.
Now if i want sd/hd ammo i shop online. Sorry local gun stores but you cant compete with online sources. As stated earlier why pay $25 for a 20 round count box of sd/hd ammo when i can order online and get 50 round count box of sd/hd ammo for a lower price. When the local store can compete with that, ill buy more ammo from them.
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I look at Walmart as a self service place. Expecting competency or decent results from the floor workers will generally result in disappointment. It's a pleasant exception to the rule when they get it right, though.
Yeah, I get some ammo there on rare occasions. But I make an effort to avoid leaving money with those people. Unless something has changed recently, Walmarts are a financial black hole in most localities. They take lots of money out of the community while putting little back, such as refusing to sponsor little league teams, etc.
I haven't been to Walmart in a while. However, I do buy ammo there since it is the cheapest place around here to purchase 9mm and .45. It also has good prices on .22 ammo, but our local Bi-Mart does as well.
If I want to get ripped off on ammo, (even higher than purchasing on-line) I'll go to the local gun shops. One local shop has .22 Minimag ammo for sale at $10.00 per box of 100. The local Walmart and Bi-mart sell the same ammo for $5.00. I'd certainly support the local shops if they weren't so greedy.
If I want to get ripped off on ammo, (even higher than purchasing on-line) I'll go to the local gun shops. One local shop has .22 Minimag ammo for sale at $10.00 per box of 100. The local Walmart and Bi-mart sell the same ammo for $5.00. I'd certainly support the local shops if they weren't so greedy.
Shadi Khalil
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I agree. My local gun store carries target ammo and only about $2 more than wall mart. It's worth it considering it saves me the trouble of have to elbow my way through the unwashed masses only to be disappointed with the selection and quanity. My local gun store has everything lots of what I need and in all the flavors.
FoxtrotRomeo
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Move to the south. In my Wal-Mart they don't hide diddly poo or give you an attitude and it's usually gone pretty fast. They still can't keep it on the shelves.
I generally buy HP rounds there. They're cheap and reliable.
Oh dude... The two local shops I go to LOVE me. The more local start up shop has commercial reloads, they're not only cheaper but generally more accurate. I try to buy that when I can. Eventually I'll be getting a pistol from them. The less local shop has a bigger selection and they really love me. One of the salesman knows darn well that if I'm gonna buy something then chances are it might be expensive. 460V revolver, Kimber Pro Eclipse, Desert Eagle and sooner or later an M1A and a FS2000, yeah they LOVE to see me come in.
Uncle Buck
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Walmart here in Warrensburg has a little bit of everything on their shelves.
For the guys who complain about the prices at their local gun shops and the guys who say support the local gun shops, it really comes down to half a dozen of one and six of the other...
When Bubba buys his ammo at Walmart and takes it to his store and marks it up 50% or more, why should I support him? Honestly?
When Bubba gets his ammo from a manufacturers distributor and it cost a little more than Wally World, I can understand paying a bit more.
When the ammo shortage was in full swing (or the demand was in full swing) our local Walmart put the ammo out at 9:00 AM. You could call the store and they would tell you, "Yes, We have... and it came in on the truck this morning, but we will not put it out until 9:00 am."
When you got there, standing in line were a few employees from local gun shops. They would readily admit they were buying it to mark it up and resell it.
I try to support local shops as much as possible, but I also believe in saving money where possible. Luckily I have learned to reload and do not have to buy commercial ammo very often.
For the guys who complain about the prices at their local gun shops and the guys who say support the local gun shops, it really comes down to half a dozen of one and six of the other...
When Bubba buys his ammo at Walmart and takes it to his store and marks it up 50% or more, why should I support him? Honestly?
When Bubba gets his ammo from a manufacturers distributor and it cost a little more than Wally World, I can understand paying a bit more.
When the ammo shortage was in full swing (or the demand was in full swing) our local Walmart put the ammo out at 9:00 AM. You could call the store and they would tell you, "Yes, We have... and it came in on the truck this morning, but we will not put it out until 9:00 am."
When you got there, standing in line were a few employees from local gun shops. They would readily admit they were buying it to mark it up and resell it.
I try to support local shops as much as possible, but I also believe in saving money where possible. Luckily I have learned to reload and do not have to buy commercial ammo very often.
PSP, I did ask the manager why they didn't have it on the shelf and she said home office told them not to put it on the shelf.
Could she have lied? Sure, but I have no way to be sure either way and its not that big a deal as I can get ammo elsewhere.
One does have to stuck up for those occasional zombie attacks and such.
Could she have lied? Sure, but I have no way to be sure either way and its not that big a deal as I can get ammo elsewhere.
One does have to stuck up for those occasional zombie attacks and such.
i know for a fact my local wally hid ammo. i benefited from it a couple of times.
i started calling at night after 7pm on wed. and fri. nights. the salesman told me that was when the trucks ran.
this was during the big run on ammo after obama came in. i have noticed they are keeping most cal. in stock, behind the glass now.
i started reloading last dec, so screw 'em
i started calling at night after 7pm on wed. and fri. nights. the salesman told me that was when the trucks ran.
this was during the big run on ammo after obama came in. i have noticed they are keeping most cal. in stock, behind the glass now.
i started reloading last dec, so screw 'em
dogtown tom
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"Underhanded" practices like being cheaper than anyone else?
During the ammo shortage, many local gun stores (ours included) were going to walmart and cleaning them out and marking up $5-$10 a box. These were the same local gun stores are were raking people over on old sks and ak rifles because of the panic. The truth is that competition is good and I'm glad for every store in the area as that just makes it better for the customer (me). If walmart didn't exist, can you imagine how high the ammo prices at the other local shops would be?
dogtown tom
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So..........who's stopping them?
SwampYankee
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What do you save by going to Walmart? $5 a box? Maybe more, but assume that is what you save. I go to the range at least once a month, I shoot 200-300 handgun rounds. That's at least 4 boxes. So in a year, I shoot 50 boxes of ammo (Sometimes that number doubles). So I might save $250 by using Walmart. But I bought a Hornady LNL instead. It cost me $380 with shipping. Once you figure powder, primers and bullets (brass was free from my own shooting and pickups), consider that you are up to $600. Your costs could be higher but this should get you about the same number of rounds per year. Assuming that it cost you $750 for a year of Walmart ammo (@ $15 a box), you've saved yourself $150 and never had to buy anyone's stupid ammo! And next year you don't have to spend $400 for a press so you only pay $200 for what used to cost $750 at Walmart. Do you like saving $550 a year?
Some people say that reloading does not save any money, it just allows you to shoot more. This is true to a point. If I did not have the press, I would only shoot 100 rounds per trip and at Walmart, that would only cost me about $400. So yes, I save less money by shooting more but I'm still saving huge amounts of money, even over the course of 2 years. And in 20 minutes, I can pop out 50 rounds. 1 hour and 20 minutes gets me 200 rounds.
Everyone's numbers are going to be different but I shoot lead bullets and Berry's plated bullets. They are cheap and effective. You bump up to XTP's and your costs for bullets will easily double or triple for no real improvement at the range.
Some people say that reloading does not save any money, it just allows you to shoot more. This is true to a point. If I did not have the press, I would only shoot 100 rounds per trip and at Walmart, that would only cost me about $400. So yes, I save less money by shooting more but I'm still saving huge amounts of money, even over the course of 2 years. And in 20 minutes, I can pop out 50 rounds. 1 hour and 20 minutes gets me 200 rounds.
Everyone's numbers are going to be different but I shoot lead bullets and Berry's plated bullets. They are cheap and effective. You bump up to XTP's and your costs for bullets will easily double or triple for no real improvement at the range.
I dont understand why it is so bad to want to save money? Thankfully for me right now my local is, as of this posting cheaper then walmart when it comes to range ammo. HD ammo is selling for $25 average.
Now in the interest of being open and fair, this particular gun shop got a major investment from one of the owners and directors of a MAJOR steal producing corperation. This guy brought in money and expertise. Thanks to his involvement he turned this barely profitable venture into one of the best gun stores in my area. Having said all that, i still look to save a buck and hd/sd ammo is still cheaper online.
I sincerely doubt if anyone will be able to beat online prices for ammo at any point in the future.
Now in the interest of being open and fair, this particular gun shop got a major investment from one of the owners and directors of a MAJOR steal producing corperation. This guy brought in money and expertise. Thanks to his involvement he turned this barely profitable venture into one of the best gun stores in my area. Having said all that, i still look to save a buck and hd/sd ammo is still cheaper online.
I sincerely doubt if anyone will be able to beat online prices for ammo at any point in the future.
larryh1108
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A buck more a box is worth it but here in IL my local shops (plural) sell the same ammo that WW has for $10/50 for $16/50. That's 60% higher or $6 a box of 50! buy 10 boxes and the difference is $100 vs $160. Yeah, I go to Walmart. If the locals wanted to keep our ammo business they would be more competitive. I'd rather sell 100 boxes at $2.50 a box ($250 profit over WM) versus 20 boxes at $6 ($120 profit over WM). If also leads to more sales of cleaning stuff, ears, eyes, range bags, etc if you lower the cost of ammo. Being fair to your customers brings in more profit dollars than being a pig and raping the loyal locals.
As for WM hiding ammo? I have a thought. Selling ammo is more involved than scanning a pair of underwear. I doubt the average pimply-faced teen can sell ammo legally and probably has no idea how to do it. I am guessing that a manager-on-duty has to ring up the purchase. In IL, the seller has to have a FOID card to ring it up so if the designated "ammo seller" is off and no one is there who can legally sell the ammo then they can't sell it. Also, usually the ammo is locked in a glass case and only managers have keys so if someone wants ammo this manager has to walk across acres of floor to unlock the case to sell it so I'd bet it's up to the manager on duty if there is ammo "avalilable" for sale or not. Walmart does not have tons of managers on duty so these people are stretched thin enough as it is. I am not justifying it just giving my observation of how this can occur. I also agree that employees "hide" ammo for "special friends" and that adds to the perceived shortage. Either way, if you don't wish to wait then you can always pay more elsewhere.
Also, Walmart ammo is located right next to the oil change dept and they always have coffee available. I always park by the service entrance, walk in the door and the ammo is right next to the auto accessories. In and out because they ring up ammo sales in the sporting goods dept as well. Quick and easy. Yeah, I'll save 60% for my ammo and not feel bad for the greedy gun shops at all.
woody wood
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here in the twin cities a few months ago,ive been to eagan and apple valley stores and both had plenty
of every handgun caliber.bloomington stoor does not have any ammo as that
store has had a "facelift" as most will be having done.
wallmart is changing to have most the stores -a grocery store.
mine store suck-mainly food and still always full of weird customers-i usualy stay away from shopping there anyways!
after this whole ammo "issue" the last year-i reload and now i dont know that
i would buy factory ammo,unless for self defense loads?
i do buy millitary surplus for some rifles that i cannot even come close in price to reload.
of every handgun caliber.bloomington stoor does not have any ammo as that
store has had a "facelift" as most will be having done.
wallmart is changing to have most the stores -a grocery store.
mine store suck-mainly food and still always full of weird customers-i usualy stay away from shopping there anyways!
after this whole ammo "issue" the last year-i reload and now i dont know that
i would buy factory ammo,unless for self defense loads?
i do buy millitary surplus for some rifles that i cannot even come close in price to reload.
If you don't feel you were treated fairly at Walmart, i would suggest contacting their headquarters to discuss it. http://walmartstores.com/7663.aspx
The local Walmart has had fluctuating stocks of the more popular calibers of handgun ammo, but they don't appear to be hiding it. I did have to actually go behind the counter and point at which boxes i wanted with one particular non-gun employee. I have had some employees limit me to three boxes per purchase (regardless of rounds per box), but this does not seem to be a universally-known policy amongst the employees. I would appreciate more variety in their brands of ammo offered, but the store is more about "stacking deep and selling cheap" than offering offerings from each and every manufacturer.
As far as supporting my local gun shop, i've been sad to see and to hear about the gouging going on at some of the local shops. The one i purchased my most recently aquired pistols at didn't seem interested in selling any quantity of ammunition beyond a "test drive" box to go with a firearm sale.
The local Walmart has had fluctuating stocks of the more popular calibers of handgun ammo, but they don't appear to be hiding it. I did have to actually go behind the counter and point at which boxes i wanted with one particular non-gun employee. I have had some employees limit me to three boxes per purchase (regardless of rounds per box), but this does not seem to be a universally-known policy amongst the employees. I would appreciate more variety in their brands of ammo offered, but the store is more about "stacking deep and selling cheap" than offering offerings from each and every manufacturer.
As far as supporting my local gun shop, i've been sad to see and to hear about the gouging going on at some of the local shops. The one i purchased my most recently aquired pistols at didn't seem interested in selling any quantity of ammunition beyond a "test drive" box to go with a firearm sale.