Wal Mart Guns
- Thread starter ghettoestl
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some time in the next few months walmartwill start fazing out selling guns only 1 store will sell them in my district i dont know if this is company wide or what but if u were thinking about buying one and like the price talk to the store mgr they should know whats up..... oh and yes i did ask.......no guns will be clearanced just shiped back ...piss me off
renegadecreation
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I’ve looked at some shotguns at Wal-Mart before...but prefer to pay a little more and help the local little man out instead of supplying a corporate giant. Local dealers loose a lot to Wal-Mart but I still try and support mine because he has been good to me in the past and I like the personal touch!!
308SORRELS
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I have purchased 2 guns from wally land and both have had 2 be sent back to be repaired . The 1 was a 20 ga. win pump for my son and The other was a 10-22 the win took 3 months and finnally they gave me my money back the 10-22 took 6 weeks and when i got it back it had the same problem so took it back and they sent it back that was 3 months ago friday . They said that they would ck on it and if it is not back they will refund my money. I will never buy from them again.
mohomesteading
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For those who buy exclusively on price, a heads up
In the next few months the Wal-Mart corporation will cease to sell firearms at all but the top 20 percent of their stores across the United States. I don't know how many stores are in that figure or where they are located. However, what I do know is that I have four Wal-Marts inside of a 45 minute drive, and another five inside an hour and a half drive where I live in Missouri. There is no guarentee that any of those are in the top 20 percent. That would mean that nine Wal-Marts within a 90 minute drive may only be selling ammuntion and muzzleloaders soon.
Think about what this means for the other 80 percent of the Wal-Mart stores those of you who love to buy from the cheapest retailer. Not to put too fine a point on it, if you just want to buy on the cheap I guess you better search the classified ad section of the newspaper, bulletin boards, word of mouth, auctions and garage sales. Very soon for many parts of the country the independent retailers and the Cabelas and Bass Pros are going to be the only choices other than the private sales market. I might also recommend some of you obtain a Curio & Relics license so you can buy inexpensive military surplus firearms. Those might also be to your liking.
As for gunsmiths and dealers like me, who are small fries and starting out, if price is all you care about, perhaps dealers such as myself should give you the price you want and provide little to no service just like Wal-Warts do. A certain amount of profit needs to be made to cover expenses and provide basic necessities for family. I try to keep my own overhead expenses down as low as possible, but sometimes it doesn't seem like keeping prices low is low enough for many where I have my business. They want to by a brand new in the box firearm for below wholesale cost, basically, they want brand new firearm for a used price.
For these reasons I do most of my sales at gun shows and via internet auctions. There are fewer hassles with those venues. Still, I wish those of you who love buy based on cost the best of luck. I'm sure you can find everything you want to by on the used market eventually.
Sorry to
In the next few months the Wal-Mart corporation will cease to sell firearms at all but the top 20 percent of their stores across the United States. I don't know how many stores are in that figure or where they are located. However, what I do know is that I have four Wal-Marts inside of a 45 minute drive, and another five inside an hour and a half drive where I live in Missouri. There is no guarentee that any of those are in the top 20 percent. That would mean that nine Wal-Marts within a 90 minute drive may only be selling ammuntion and muzzleloaders soon.
Think about what this means for the other 80 percent of the Wal-Mart stores those of you who love to buy from the cheapest retailer. Not to put too fine a point on it, if you just want to buy on the cheap I guess you better search the classified ad section of the newspaper, bulletin boards, word of mouth, auctions and garage sales. Very soon for many parts of the country the independent retailers and the Cabelas and Bass Pros are going to be the only choices other than the private sales market. I might also recommend some of you obtain a Curio & Relics license so you can buy inexpensive military surplus firearms. Those might also be to your liking.
As for gunsmiths and dealers like me, who are small fries and starting out, if price is all you care about, perhaps dealers such as myself should give you the price you want and provide little to no service just like Wal-Warts do. A certain amount of profit needs to be made to cover expenses and provide basic necessities for family. I try to keep my own overhead expenses down as low as possible, but sometimes it doesn't seem like keeping prices low is low enough for many where I have my business. They want to by a brand new in the box firearm for below wholesale cost, basically, they want brand new firearm for a used price.
For these reasons I do most of my sales at gun shows and via internet auctions. There are fewer hassles with those venues. Still, I wish those of you who love buy based on cost the best of luck. I'm sure you can find everything you want to by on the used market eventually.
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DeadEyeAmy
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Support your local dealers!!!!!!
Wild Bill Bucks
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Your local wally world doesn't give a hoot whether you like their products or not.
Their paycheck comes from Bentonville, Arkansas.
Our town used to have about 7 grocery stores, 5 hardware stores, 4 gunshops, and a slew of other small businesses, that were owned by people who truly cared about our community, and its people.
Since wally came to town, we now have 1 grocery store, NO hardware stores, 1 gunshop, and our downtown area looks like a ghost town.
If people keep being fooled about the giant retailers, we will eventually only have one choice about where to shop. It will be wally world or nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I realize that I paid a little more for my goods at those local stores, but when I walked in, they new me by name, and truly cared whether or not I was satisfied with my purchase, and were willing to do what ever it took to make me happy.
I can go to wally world and I have to look somebody up, to get some help, and most of the time, have to talk to someone who doesn't know squat about what I need.
Thats why they have a "Greetor" at the door, because once you get past him, thats the last time anyone will be freindly. Heaven forbid if you need help.
All that said "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR", so I'll pay the local guy, and help feed his family, until I don't have a choice.
Their paycheck comes from Bentonville, Arkansas.
Our town used to have about 7 grocery stores, 5 hardware stores, 4 gunshops, and a slew of other small businesses, that were owned by people who truly cared about our community, and its people.
Since wally came to town, we now have 1 grocery store, NO hardware stores, 1 gunshop, and our downtown area looks like a ghost town.
If people keep being fooled about the giant retailers, we will eventually only have one choice about where to shop. It will be wally world or nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I realize that I paid a little more for my goods at those local stores, but when I walked in, they new me by name, and truly cared whether or not I was satisfied with my purchase, and were willing to do what ever it took to make me happy.
I can go to wally world and I have to look somebody up, to get some help, and most of the time, have to talk to someone who doesn't know squat about what I need.
Thats why they have a "Greetor" at the door, because once you get past him, thats the last time anyone will be freindly. Heaven forbid if you need help.
All that said "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR", so I'll pay the local guy, and help feed his family, until I don't have a choice.
duckcallinfool
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I think what this whole issue boils down to is....
Do you personally want to take the chance that the gun you are buying for a reduced price MIGHT be the exact same gun that you would get at your local gun dealer?
Me...
NO WAY!
I would be embarrassed to take my firearm in for service at my local gun shop after saving a few bucks at a mega retailer.
Do you personally want to take the chance that the gun you are buying for a reduced price MIGHT be the exact same gun that you would get at your local gun dealer?
Me...
NO WAY!
I would be embarrassed to take my firearm in for service at my local gun shop after saving a few bucks at a mega retailer.
DeadEyeAmy
Inactive
And, people forget that the money WM generates gets sucked right out of your community. :barf: YOUR money that you spend there goes elsewhere. The sales tax generated is a penance. The money that you spend at a locally owned store stays right at home.
hunters_haven
Inactive
Something to chew on
I confirmed what a poster said about Wal-Mart reducing firearms sales to only the stores with the top 20 percent of firearms sales. I guess the few local gun shops will be seeing more business soon.
As for any difference between Wal-Mart firearms and those in a gun store, the Wal-Mart guns seem to be stiffer to operate and not as fine in the metal and wood finish as those in a gun shop. This is comparing the same models to each other. I doubt there are any corners cut on safety, rather on things that will allow for a lower cost to meet the price point Wal-Mart is willing to pay.
I confirmed what a poster said about Wal-Mart reducing firearms sales to only the stores with the top 20 percent of firearms sales. I guess the few local gun shops will be seeing more business soon.
As for any difference between Wal-Mart firearms and those in a gun store, the Wal-Mart guns seem to be stiffer to operate and not as fine in the metal and wood finish as those in a gun shop. This is comparing the same models to each other. I doubt there are any corners cut on safety, rather on things that will allow for a lower cost to meet the price point Wal-Mart is willing to pay.
Savage10FP308
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This is silly!
I'm sure everybody claiming walmart is cheaper bought a gun at walmart and then ran to their local dealer to buy the same one right?
I love this forum! So many experts. There's people who know which guns are junk, even though they have never shot them and there are people who know wal-mart makes cheaper guns but they've never even compared a walmart and a non walmart of the same model. I think this boils down to people being pissed off that they paid way more than they could have at wal-mart and are just looking to justify their purpose. Their are people on here who think you have to spend $800 on a scope. The $150 I paid for my Tasco seems to be serving me well. It looks and works the same way it did when I bought it.
I'm sure everybody claiming walmart is cheaper bought a gun at walmart and then ran to their local dealer to buy the same one right?
I love this forum! So many experts. There's people who know which guns are junk, even though they have never shot them and there are people who know wal-mart makes cheaper guns but they've never even compared a walmart and a non walmart of the same model. I think this boils down to people being pissed off that they paid way more than they could have at wal-mart and are just looking to justify their purpose. Their are people on here who think you have to spend $800 on a scope. The $150 I paid for my Tasco seems to be serving me well. It looks and works the same way it did when I bought it.
Dead-Nuts-Zero
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Such post as this will go on forever. There are several points on each side. I have bought guns at WM and have no problem with them. I buy them to shoot and hunt and don't really care if it's real walnut. If I want a good brand fancy gun to polish and brag about I will go to the local dealer. That is if there were one within 30 miles. I do much of my shopping at night and on weekends and the WM store is open. I can get bait, licenses and ammo whenever I need it. If I go away on vacation, and I need a new fish pole for the kids, I don't know where to find the local shops so I go where I can pick up everything I may need for the week of r & r. Beer, bread and bedspreads all in one stop. My vacation time and money is valuable to me.
I have had my own businesses for many years and I know both sides to most of it. I think of many of my small town business owners, they drive the new big cars and have the better house in the best part of town. There kids go to the big schools etc. etc. etc. When you shop at a big box store, you are helping support dozens of families, not just one, and they are often families who need the support. Every time a new big box store opens, I hear how they have thousands of applications to fill only 2 or 3 hundred jobs. They can't be that bad of a place to work. My son worked at one right out of school and he made a decent wage, had all kinds of benefits availible to him. Not as good as the union boys in Detroit, but a good place to start out at with no college education. And he had fun working there and learned alot too. WM was a small town business when it started. They knew what they were doing and are still doing it, and doing it very well. I remember 30 years ago pre-WM days, when the local gas station became 7-11 and they sold grocery items, fresh hot pizza, sweatshirts, beer, ice cream Sundays etc. much like WM. Now try to find a gas station who will check your oil. Who cares? Yea some do care like my mother, but most don't, they care about saving a few bucks. What about the small local shoe store owner? Does he call up the Buick dealer across town and say I need a car, when can I pick it up? My bet is that the shoe store owner checks out the Sunday paper new car ads and checks the city dealers as well as the local guy because he can save maybe thousands. Is this any different?
I believe that with guns, they will become harder to get every year because of the anti's. It will be the big box stores that can afford to lobby and they, if anyone will get the guns. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. One store vs. 20 small individual gun dealers for the feds to govern? We all know they don't know what's going on most of the time.
Just my 2 cents and this is the way I see some of it. I am sure there are many who will disagree with everything and I respect that. And one last thing, my local WM has two licensed (very successful) hunting and fishing guides who work/run their sporting goods sections. They work mostly in the off season and they love to talk gun talk at the store and they know the difference between 12 and 20 ga. If it weren’t for flexible hours and seasonal work, they may not have the job (as an outdoor guide) they love, because it won't support their families year round. WM has tons of employees that are seasonal and part time. Some of them even live in the better part of town!
FWIW IMO.
I have had my own businesses for many years and I know both sides to most of it. I think of many of my small town business owners, they drive the new big cars and have the better house in the best part of town. There kids go to the big schools etc. etc. etc. When you shop at a big box store, you are helping support dozens of families, not just one, and they are often families who need the support. Every time a new big box store opens, I hear how they have thousands of applications to fill only 2 or 3 hundred jobs. They can't be that bad of a place to work. My son worked at one right out of school and he made a decent wage, had all kinds of benefits availible to him. Not as good as the union boys in Detroit, but a good place to start out at with no college education. And he had fun working there and learned alot too. WM was a small town business when it started. They knew what they were doing and are still doing it, and doing it very well. I remember 30 years ago pre-WM days, when the local gas station became 7-11 and they sold grocery items, fresh hot pizza, sweatshirts, beer, ice cream Sundays etc. much like WM. Now try to find a gas station who will check your oil. Who cares? Yea some do care like my mother, but most don't, they care about saving a few bucks. What about the small local shoe store owner? Does he call up the Buick dealer across town and say I need a car, when can I pick it up? My bet is that the shoe store owner checks out the Sunday paper new car ads and checks the city dealers as well as the local guy because he can save maybe thousands. Is this any different?
I believe that with guns, they will become harder to get every year because of the anti's. It will be the big box stores that can afford to lobby and they, if anyone will get the guns. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. One store vs. 20 small individual gun dealers for the feds to govern? We all know they don't know what's going on most of the time.
Just my 2 cents and this is the way I see some of it. I am sure there are many who will disagree with everything and I respect that. And one last thing, my local WM has two licensed (very successful) hunting and fishing guides who work/run their sporting goods sections. They work mostly in the off season and they love to talk gun talk at the store and they know the difference between 12 and 20 ga. If it weren’t for flexible hours and seasonal work, they may not have the job (as an outdoor guide) they love, because it won't support their families year round. WM has tons of employees that are seasonal and part time. Some of them even live in the better part of town!
FWIW IMO.Tommy Vercetti
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nothing wrong with their guns
I just choose to deal with someone who knows me personally
I just choose to deal with someone who knows me personally
was looking at Beretta's web page wrote down there order numbers went to walmart exactly the same numbers. Remington didnt have there numbers listed.Walmart's buyers buy for aleast a region at a time if not for the whole network of stores. It's simply supply and demand if you like your local gun supply then you should support them but a store making an order for six 870's can't compete with one ordering 5000.buy where you feel your getting what you want and at your price.
Earnhardtjr3829
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I have bought 4 guns at Wal Mart. A Rem 870 Express Super Mag, Rem Spartan 12 gauge single shot, Savage .22 model 62f, and Marlin .22 model 60. I have been very satisfied with all except the Savage, which I have posted about before. It jammed every other round when I bought it, and after being sent back 3 times, It hasn't been fixed at all. I hate what Wal Mart does to dealers as much as the next guy, but it's hard to turn those prices down. I buy enough guns from shows and dealers though to do my part.
Texas9000s
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From the manufacturing side of all this. I work for a rather large tire company on the retail side. I see what some tire companies call "club models" these would be the major brand "x" tires that you see at Costco, WalMart, Sams, etc. The "brand" is the same, the model is similar, maybe with an extra letter thrown in. These are tires that are made for "them" and not "us". I cannot factualy speak about diferences in what goes into these "club" tires, only that they are, in fact different. If you bring me, one of my companies "club" tires, I don't have to warranty it. I would suspect the same of many of the other name brand products they sell. That said, my company also makes a no name "brand" that I sell and warrant, just less features in the product, no marketing costs lower selling price. Every other tire company does the same thing. If you call Discount Tire they sell a Pathfinder tire that is visually identical to a Kelly Springfield, they are the same, yet different.