W.R. tests Glockmeister's Competition trigger system

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For those of you that own a Glock and have been thinking of upgrading your Glocks trigger here is my own evaluation of one that I tested in my own Glock 17.

I like most people basically use a Glock for recreational weekend shooting. The pistol's light weight, top heaviness, heavy trigger pull and most importantly creepy trigger pull take it out of the class of a good competition gun.

Still I had heard rumors from freinds that the competition package would turn a basically sows ear into a silk purse.

Well I am willing to try anything once so I looked over the options available for modifying the Glocks trigger into something more usable.

I decided against just ordering the 3 1/2 lb trigger bar and lighter spring even though it cost half the money as compared to the competition package.

The competition package is quicker and easier to install than disassembiling the trigger sub-assembly and it is supposedly hand fitted for smoothness of operation. An optional over-travel screw to prevent trigger bounce is also available as another option.

After receiving the competion assembly I simply punched out two pins and removed the old assembly and installed the new assembly. It took only a few minutes to do this.

With my trigger gauge I found that the new trigger system broke at 4 lbs which was 1/2 pound heavier than advertised. It was a full pound lighter than the original trigger and some but not all of the terrible Glock creep was eliminated.

Still the trigger was in no way in the class of a good competition pull. It was still way to heavy and still had enough creep in it to prevent one from knowing exactly when the trigger would break.

Is it worth the money. Well that will be up to you to decide on a personal basis. It does make the pull somewhat better than the stock trigger but if you are used to the first class competition trigger job on say the 1911, the High Power or the stock factory Sig P210 you will be very disappointed.

It is also recommended you never carry this pistol with the competition trigger installed. W.R.
 
W.R.,

Given your long observed (here) hatred for all things Glock, why on earth would anyone give a moments thought to your opinion about a Glock part or modification.

Just how dumb do you take us to be!!
 
To Dave T

If you had read many of my posts in their entirety you would be well aware that I own and shoot Glocks as well as many other brands of pistols both modern and traditional.

By owning and using many types of weapons only then can one see the difference between them both positive and negative.

Also any one who has read my posts in their entirety would be aware that even when it comes to plastic pistols I have reported the positive points about them, for example the reliablity, accuracy and good trigger pull of the Walther P99. W.R.
 
Yes sir you do shoot Glocks, but as you have trashed them in every post I have ever seen you make on this forum, I have no idea why.

Most of us are smart enough to know a Glock will never be a 1911.

But then, most 1911s will not match the feed relibility of a Glock, at least not at the same price level.

Why do you mess around with Glocks so much when the 1911 and Hi-power are the only pistols worth using?

Can't come out of the closet as a "polymer lover"?

Open up, W.R., we can help you over your "issues..."

Chris P.

P.S. I love the 1911 too, but it's not a religous thing for me.
 
If you had read many of my posts in their entirety you would be well aware that I own and shoot Glocks as well as many other brands of pistols both modern and traditional.

By owning and using many types of weapons only then can one see the difference between them both positive and negative.
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Still waiting to hear a "positive" comment on some of the guns you own. You know; the polymer Glock toys and the aluminum and sheet metal SIG junk.

I sure wish I owned a lot of different kinds of guns so that I could make my own decisions on how they function... :rolleyes:

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Marry me! :D

- Gabe

PS: Just kidding...I'm already happily married! Maybe you can just adopt me? ;)
 
to Chris

Can't come out of the closet as a "polymer lover"?
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Thank you for this post it really did make me smile.

Actually one day I was looking at my Walther Plastic P99 and I was beginning to like it but I put up my crucifix up in front of my face and ran and jumped back into the closet. W.R.
 
to Tamara

This is not a flame. I am sure you do indeed own all of these weapons. But you never seem to do a serious critique on any of them. Surely they all are not perfect in every way. W.R.
 
Wild Romanian,
Surely they all are not perfect in every way. W.R.
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They are not perfect in every way because they all aren't BHPs, SIG 210s, 1911s, and Star 30s.

RIGHT?????!!!! :rolleyes:

Shake
 
WR,

As a matter of fact, not one of them, from the lowly Beretta Jetfire to the bucks-up Springfield Professional, is perfect (what with being machines designed by humans and all that).

But, they are all reliable quality firearms that excel at one job or another.

You will not hear me say Glocks are perfect. Nor will you hear me say 1911's or any other type of gun are.

If I was to engage in a bullseye match, I'd bring a full-size 1911.
If I wanted a compact, reliable, powerful, rust-resistant gun to carry, I have small-frame Glocks.
If I need something small and reliable to slip in a pocket as a holdout or backup, I have Beretta mouseguns.
Etcetera, ad nauseum.

Guns are tools; hammers are excellent for driving nails, but not so hot at sawing wood, if you will.

Pretending there's only one or two "perfect" guns out there and the rest are crap ignores the fact that, as handgun enthusiasts (and especially autopistol aficionados), we live in a time of abundance. Never before have there been so many reliable, accurate, durable autoloaders on the market. Letting some prejudice for, say, pistachio keep one from trying the 31 other flavors out there is just silly, IMHO.
 
To Shake

They are not perfect in every way because they all aren't BHPs, SIG 210s, 1911s, and Star 30s.


This is a first Shake we both agree on something.

Just joking.

No pistol is perfect and I have stated the faults of all pistols I have owned or tested including the High Power and the 1911. It seems as though people choose only to remember a few of my posts or only talk about the times I critiqued the modern pistols.
I have not only critiqued the High Power on this post but even on the FN high power post.

What I have never been able to fathom is the belief by some people that A. A handgun is not a machine. and B. that it is impossible that they all are not perfect in everyway. W.R.
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WR.....this is not a flame......but

I just spent the better part of an hour and a half reading 3 pages worth of topics that you have voiced an opinion on. No I had nothing better to do! A comment you made in this post about having said positive and negative things about glocks, got me to looking and know what? In over 3 pages not one positive comment could I find, unless plastic toys or plastic junk is positive. I find it difficult to take any comparison or feild test you would ever do on a glock to be objective, or unbiased. I could be wrong since I unlike alot who have been registered here alot less time than me may have as many as 10 times as many posts, but I dont say nothin till I have somethin to say.

Have a great day
 
Modern handguns are made cheaper and faster not better. Stick with the classics.
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That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. You should register on Glock Talk and post your opinions.

You will never be able to convert all of us into old timers with these far-fetched tests and opinions so why not just give up?:rolleyes:
 
To Tamara

As a matter of fact, not one of them, from the lowly Beretta Jetfire to the bucks-up Springfield Professional, is perfect (what with being machines designed by humans and all that).
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Getting back to my original question of why most people never seem to do a really hard hitting critique is that they know what will follow if they post it.

Basically I think that the reason most people become so violently angry is that their confidence is shaken in their security blanket that happens to be their weapon of choice. Those that protest the loudest that their favorite weapon is not perfect are those that sub-consciously have the least confidence in it. They tend to panic on the sub-conscious level and this in turn leads to a violent outburst against anyone that has pointed out that their weapon is a machine and does indeed have some faults especially if they are of a serious nature.

I do not expect everone to agree with me whenever I critique a weapon because it would certainly be a dull forum indeed. But I will say this much, I with my coments have certainly started a lot of discussions about various weapons and I wonder why more people on this forum do not post more in depth discussions instead of the usuall" I bought a new gun and it is wonderful and perfect in every way followed by the response "Yes I agree with you it is wonderful and perfect in every way." W.R.
 
sub conwhat?

I thought we were talkin bout guns. I wish that I had the talent to psycho analyze a diverse and widely spread population based on a few bulletin board posts...........I would still miss cleos job in a heart beat.:D
 
Basically I think that the reason most people become so violently angry is that their confidence is shaken in their security blanket that happens to be their weapon of choice.
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Not in my case. I don't really have a weapon of choice. I tend to like most any quality gun out there. It seems you are the one who can't accept the fact that there are other great weapons out there besides the "old classics" that you would consider perfect. I guess you could say I get a little upset about your posts, but that's because I really hate trolls.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with everything you say, but I don't like the "hidden meaning" behind all of your posts:
If it's not a gun designed by Browning, it is a heap of junk.

Other than that, I tend to agree with most of your criticisms.
 
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