Veterans...are you angry?
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Capt. Charlie
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Ghostdog
I take it you're saying there's more to the story. Enlighten us, and how you know what you know.
I take it you're saying there's more to the story. Enlighten us, and how you know what you know.
I'll let you know how I feel Friday. I go to the VA hospital to have my service connected injury evaluated. VA doctors have suggested for some time that I should put in a claim but I've always hesitated due to personal guilt feelings about "charity & handouts". Its been 6 months waiting for the evaluation! If I get it fine but I don't need it (at this time anyhow) if I don't, well I still had a very rewarding military experience. Considering how many vets never survived to collect any benefits and the gross amount of waste in our country, it's hard for me to begrudge any vet who MAY get more than they deserve. After all, it usually doesn't amount to much more (or less!) that a low life on public assistance. 
telewinz,
10% Disability here. It's not much but I'm thankful that I don't get more because I have less (like many of the vets that are seriously wounded in battle/service).
Instead of getting money for the disability I just wished that they would give base privelages. That way, they don't give out any cash but you can give them cash (by shopping at the BX, Class 6, Commissary, etc..). It's a win win to me
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Right now that wouldn't help me out but you never know about the future, I could be living close to a base.
As for thinking of it as charity or a handout, I don't think about it that way. I earned what I get. At least I did a job that I got hurt on and the counsel decided that I was worth 10% disability. It's not like I grew up, had kids out of wedlock (or even in) and then popped out kids that I couldn't afford and then use the system to get free cash so I could just sit around and drink, smoke and watch tv all day without worrying about getting a job.
Wayne
10% Disability here. It's not much but I'm thankful that I don't get more because I have less (like many of the vets that are seriously wounded in battle/service).
Instead of getting money for the disability I just wished that they would give base privelages. That way, they don't give out any cash but you can give them cash (by shopping at the BX, Class 6, Commissary, etc..). It's a win win to me
.Right now that wouldn't help me out but you never know about the future, I could be living close to a base.
As for thinking of it as charity or a handout, I don't think about it that way. I earned what I get. At least I did a job that I got hurt on and the counsel decided that I was worth 10% disability. It's not like I grew up, had kids out of wedlock (or even in) and then popped out kids that I couldn't afford and then use the system to get free cash so I could just sit around and drink, smoke and watch tv all day without worrying about getting a job.
Wayne
USP45usp
I know it isn't charity and I've been using (paying) to visit my local VA clinic out of choice. VA's clinic is much better than my health managed care provider's but at first it was just for the novelty. But VA does operate on a budget and what they give to me is that much less for someone else. I'm just protecting my future, who knows what cut backs will come down the road later and if I don't file now...who knows. Thanks for serving our country.
I know it isn't charity and I've been using (paying) to visit my local VA clinic out of choice. VA's clinic is much better than my health managed care provider's but at first it was just for the novelty. But VA does operate on a budget and what they give to me is that much less for someone else. I'm just protecting my future, who knows what cut backs will come down the road later and if I don't file now...who knows. Thanks for serving our country.
I suggest you put in a claim.... There is a priority system at the VA. If you dont have a service connected disabililty you may wind up at the bottom of the heap and have to reimburse the VA for medicine. If its service connected put in a claim. While you are young it may not give you much trouble but as you get older....it will probably get worse. So I wouldnt wait about putting in claim because if priorites get shifted again due to lack of funds..you might get left out in the cold....
plus the VA charges your private health insurance company if you have one so the VA recoups some of its costs...so its not exactly a charity
plus the VA charges your private health insurance company if you have one so the VA recoups some of its costs...so its not exactly a charity
I've been going to the VA clinic for 4 years, not once have they billed my insurance company. I pay the $15 visit fee and the $7.50 (30 day supply) for meds but it's still a great bargain IMHO.
"FREE medical care for the rest of your life!" December 1971. (said to a young trooper who didn't care).
"If you don't enroll with the VA by the cut-off date, you won't be eligible for medical care!" January 2002. (said to an old warhorse who did/does care). I enrolled in 2001!
Hunter Rose
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Johnbt: kinda funny that he hasn't posted again, isn't it?
I get a 10% disability from the VA for problems inflicted in Viet Nam in
1969 and 1970. It's not much, but I don't have a problem cashing the
check.
My problem with the VA was their "service", back "in the day".
When I was applying for disability, in 1971, you showed up at the VA
Hospital, and spent the entire day there, going through the system.
And it was always on a weekday, costing you a day's pay. I spent
many a day at the hospital in Dallas, either waiting for a doctor, or
waiting for them to find my records.
But I finally won. I got the disability. Now, the only way I lose it is
when I die. And then, I won't care.
Walter
1969 and 1970. It's not much, but I don't have a problem cashing the
check.
My problem with the VA was their "service", back "in the day".
When I was applying for disability, in 1971, you showed up at the VA
Hospital, and spent the entire day there, going through the system.
And it was always on a weekday, costing you a day's pay. I spent
many a day at the hospital in Dallas, either waiting for a doctor, or
waiting for them to find my records.
But I finally won. I got the disability. Now, the only way I lose it is
when I die. And then, I won't care.
Walter
MeekAndMild
New member
Am I angry? Nope.
President Grant crossed this emotional bridge when he was the general in charge of the battle of Shiloh. He was confronted with the problem of about 3000 troops who had fled the front line and were hiding along the river bank. He thought about having officers come up behind them and start shooting them to get the survivors to go back up into the battle, but instead decided let them rest for a while. He said that most of them went back into the battle the next day and did well.
Sometimes it is better to let beople do what they have to do to survive.
President Grant crossed this emotional bridge when he was the general in charge of the battle of Shiloh. He was confronted with the problem of about 3000 troops who had fled the front line and were hiding along the river bank. He thought about having officers come up behind them and start shooting them to get the survivors to go back up into the battle, but instead decided let them rest for a while. He said that most of them went back into the battle the next day and did well.
Sometimes it is better to let beople do what they have to do to survive.
PearWalnut
Inactive
If it burned you up before, it'll really..........
make you mad now!!!! Check this out:
http://www.styleweekly.com/article.asp?idarticle=1849
In particular the last line, I guess he is going at it again, he refiled in March. Apparently the other time he tried for $50,000,000 did not work, what a shame.
make you mad now!!!! Check this out:
http://www.styleweekly.com/article.asp?idarticle=1849
In particular the last line, I guess he is going at it again, he refiled in March. Apparently the other time he tried for $50,000,000 did not work, what a shame.
MeekAndMild
New member
A year later since my last post I'm still not mad, just tired of the whole thing. "Disability compensation" is a wrong road we took many years ago. I gave up worrying about it long ago, figuring sooner or later winter will come, the ants will get by and the grasshoppers will starve.
What we need is a system which will provide meaningful jobs for people no matter what their disability. I like the system that is in effect in Holland where mentally ill people and others with disabilities are paid to do public works according to their capability.
What we need is a system which will provide meaningful jobs for people no matter what their disability. I like the system that is in effect in Holland where mentally ill people and others with disabilities are paid to do public works according to their capability.
PearWalnut
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Or a meaningful contribution to one's community. When you take from the community without any return we erode the support system for our children. But you are most correct and compassionate "meekandmild"
Or a meaningful contribution to one's community. When you take from the community without any return we erode the support system for our children. But you are most correct and compassionate "meekandmild"