Veterans...are you angry?

duck hunt

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You will be after you read this article. Here in Richmond, Sean Church is a local scenester, tooling around from coffee shops to nightclubs on his $25,000 Harley. He is always -- and I mean ALWAYS -- parked in some bohemian gathering spot, reading books on Zen and schmoozing up to girls. How does he finance this life of leisure? Through our tax dollars! This leech gets $30,000 a year *and* unlimited medical care from the VA -- and he wants more.

Read the article (and please consider responding if you are a vet) at http://www.richmond.com/StyleWeekly/output.cfm?ID=755204 I don't know about you all, but it really burns me up when I scrape together $1.09 out of my change holder and run into a coffee shop for a quick fix on my way to work and see this mooch sitting there, all ready for another tough day of eating croissants and sipping lattes. Something wrong with the system? You're telling me.

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This guy needs a beating. I am a Veteran and I had a friend in my platoon who had a real injury and had to wait forever to get a discharge and limited medical benifits.

I really hope this guy loses his benifits and real disabled vets get what they deserve.
But I won't count on it.

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Semper Fi
 
I do not know this guy, but any vet deserves what he can get for his service. He is "sick" in every sense of the word. I have seen it work both ways. I would rather see the system be work this way, then like it was a 15 years ago where you could get nothing out of the government for vets. At least this guy did something to deserve his benefits, instead of sitting around having babies and sticking his hand out. I do not condone his behaivor, nor do I deny him the right to seek just compensation for his injury. Let the courts and doctors decide.
 
Hell yes I'm mad. I pay my yearly membership fee to the VFW to protect veterans' rights. Then this dumbfu** decides to make a mockery of us all. If I ever ran across him, I'll dump his fricken latte in his Harley's tank and see how he likes it. Then again, he'll probably get the VA to pay for the repair. grrr
 
There are Veterans who can't walk due to injuries suffered in service who recieve less benefits than this clown.
He's taking money that should be going to the legitimately dissabled Veterans. It's blasphemy! I don't condone his actions in the slightest. He's taking from those who've given the most.
I know this guy. He doesn't deserve a dime.

Semper Fidelis ----- 0311
 
I think this guy is an exception to the rule. Most Vets deserve the benefits they receive. My Father is 70% disabled, and he'd gladly trade his check for his lost health.

Maybe a Senator or Congressperson would be interested in some footage or eyewitness accounts of this guy's activities. I'm sure there must be a review process for disability ratings.

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I have no feeling on half the tip of my trigger finger due to an accident in the service. Yet I never collected disability. I feel the military owes me nothing because I am in great health. Those of you going to the TFL shoot can see the gross scar on my trig finger.
 
I am no veteren. But pardon me, how many firefights has wannabe Sean Church survived? None. The world owes this whining slacker nothing. True Vets should go ballistic, yet as experienced folks they must just chuckle. My respect for the real deal increases daily.
 
In any system you'll find a few that abuse it. The VA is no exception. I get a small check, and medical care for my disabilities. I am just overjoyed at what I get. While the military was fun and exciting for a while, the injuries last a lifetime, and it is nice to have a place to go. I don't carry insurance, and rely on the local VA to treat me. I might see a doctor once a year, and it is always a pleasant experience. Our local VA is much better than the civilian hospital, and so all the veterans, even those with insurance go there. I'm not mad at Mr. Church, because he will have to live with the knowlege that he's been utterly worthless when he nears the end of his life. Imagine lying on your deathbed knowing that you didn't help anybody or do anything with your life. That would be a hard death. I forgot to mention that due to my disabilities (arthritis in knees, ankles, shoulder, and bone spurs in ankles) I will start attending college classes in the Fall, and it is all paid for by the VA. The VA has been an excellent resource for me, and has helped out when I really needed it. There are always the extreme examples, but overall, most veterans get what they need. I'd rather hear about one who gets too much than one who gets too little. By the way, all you paratroopers out there: KEEP YOUR DAMN FEET AND KNEES TOGETHER!!! :D
 
Yep, I get angry at the abusers of the system, but as a veteran, he does deserve something, until he's proven abusive...then stick it to him!
 
This guy is what I call a "Professional Veteran" and I have no use for the type. There are too many of us who always have their hands out and who are always complaining and demanding. It is people like this who keep the deserving vets from being helped. Now with all that being said, somebody apparently made the decision to pay thr benefits???????

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Ed
 
One word for this guy: LOSER

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Dan

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"I want peace on earth, good will towards men.” And $500 million, Sean Church adds, so he can start his own Buddhist martial arts center, complete with dojo and tea house, for troubled youth. And the “all-pictorial” magazine, showcasing “twelve to 30 unknown photographers from all around the world” each month. And the worldwide “Peace Aid” concert. And ....

“I want everything,” he says. “I’m entitled to that and I want every other veteran to be
entitled to that, too.”


I want. I want. I want. This bozo spends 3 years in the Navy and gets more in benefits than I'll receive when I retire in 6½ years after 20... And I'm sorry he's so twisted from his daddy being nasty to him but how is that the Navy's (and by extension the VA's) problem? No, I'm afraid you really don't want to hear my opinion - and besides, I refuse to let my BP skyrocket by dwelling on this waste of oxygen.

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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
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Sean Church spotting:

I was driving to my volunteer gig this afternoon - I teach school full time, and, in all that free time I have as a teacher (coff coff) I belly dance at charity functions and nursing homes. We danced at the Cancer Society Walk for Life last night, and today we danced at a nursing home. As I was crossing the Huguenot Bridge, Mister Church breezed past in the opposite direction on his $25,000 Harley, not a care in the world, probably on his way to the coffee shop to spread his Zen philosophy and poor-me gospel.

When I got to the gig, I suggested to our manager that she call the VA and see if they would be interested in having us come in and entertain the vets at the hospital. Something about seeing ol' ablebodied young Sean just got me thinking about the guys who were *really* disabled serving our country and are just sitting up there at MacGuire Hospital, in wheelchairs and beds, with little more than some back issues of Reader's Digest to look at, on a gorgeous day like today -- and meanwhile Disability Boy is tooling around town like a playboy on the bike our tax dollars bought.

Gotta love the system...

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I did 10 years in the Navy as a weapons tech, and one day while on deployment in the MED I was working the flight deck on board U.S.S. Saratoga in 93' arming the missiles for the outgoing fighters and de-arming the incoming fighters(F-14/FA-18) and just as one of my shipmates on my team leaned over to replace and arming pin, the bird was taxied forward and ran completely over his knee.

His leg was amputated from above the knee and he was given 100% disability. it really makes
me throw-up to think that a man like that is just sailing thru the system without a single
problem wrong with his body. money like this dork is geting should be reserved for people like my shipmate.

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This scum is a 37 year old brat who never grew up. He's a product of a system that rewards inability and punishes competence. Expect many, many more like him in the future.

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When I was working my workstudy program at utep, one of my job's was transcribing psycological sessions. Its an eye opener when you begin to see the different illinesses and scams that are tried constantly. Several of the paitents who sessions I transcribed had illinesses that were from their childhood and in some cases the va was treating them. They ranged from everything from depression to a man wanting the va to pay for a sex change operation.
once Id ended my enlistment I had been home a short time when I was recruited to go back overseas for uncle sugar and not long after my contract had expired I wound up in the va hospital in albuquerqe for a week or so, I was in a ward with paraplegic's--I was the only guy there that had all four of his limbs, those guys were in all ranges of acceptance of the situation they found themselves in, some would supplement their medication by self medicating with illegal stuff......for the most part had learned to make do with what they had and had developed humor to help cope....I cant tell ya how many times I heard "hey you with the legs run down their and get us a soda will ya", even though I was on crutches I had my legs.I gurantee ya none of those folks got over on the va.,....and they sure had it rougher than church. If he needs help, he should be helped, he certainley should not be allowed to abuse the system.
Btw, when I first saw his photo he looked somewhat familar, although his age would make it unlikely that I could have know this guy, but what was his rate and his years of enlistment?.....fubsy.
 
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