Vests as part of home defense plan...

Vests are a waste of finite resources (IE, Money). I wouldn't fool with them. I have a hard enough time carrying my concealed carry pistol, what makes you think the average concerned citizen will don a vest? It will wind up being left at home, probably stuck in a closet corner.

The best defensive bet besides firearms, is a good safe room, probably your bedroom. A nice heavy door with a deadbolt. Strike plates that have been solidly anchored with at least 2 inch screws (Next time your home, pull the screws from your bedroom doors' strike plate, I bet dollars to donuts, that they're quarter to half inch screws. If anyone kicks your door, those screws will fail, and your door will be compromised. Rip those suckers out and replace them with longer screws.) A phone or cellphone in said room, (To call the cops with,) and some decent artillery waiting in close proximity.

Pepper spray... that might make a nice addition in areas where placing a gun may put within reach of small children, (a childs' room, favorite play room. Etc) Of course, once the kids grow up enough to know how to properly respect guns, that pepper spray would be replaced by fire arms.

Finally, you back this up with good perimeter and in depth security. Check your exterior doors and door frames, your locks, windows, exterior lighting and cover, (Don't give the bad guys any extra cover or concealment for when thier trying to sneak up.) and outbuildings. (Life ain't going to be easy if they can break into your shed and get their paws on B&E goodies like ladders, powertools, etc and so forth.)
 
I keep a vest near the bed for the same reason I keep a gun near the bed: the possibility of an armed invader entering my home.

The history of these things is, the bullets go in both directions. It only makes sense.

Sounds about right. It can't hurt.
 
I have some of this stuff:

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/pepper.htm

The wind as mentioned is a concern with this stuff though. Even though it does shoot about 10 feet it can blow back. On the day I tested it on a tree I got just a tiny bit of it back into my throat. Just an extremely small amount. It burned and choked me far more than any Mexican food I've ever eaten. I hate to think what it would do to the eyes, and I can't see anyone doing much after it hitting them, regardless of comments condemning pepper sprays.

The amount that blew back on me was just some drizzle and it really stung.
 
I have one but wouldn't have time to throw it on in case of a intruder. Just enough time for adrenaline and fear to throw me running to dresser droor for my 38snubbie:cool:
 
I own body armor (with Class IV rifle plates), but I acknowledge that I might not have time to put it on if my home were invaded, anyway. That's not exactly why I bought it in any case.

I believe each citizen should own the best armor he can afford as part of his duty to protect the Constitution against its domestic enemies (i.e., in the event of government tyranny). This is, after all, the purpose of the Second Amendment.

Incidentally, I think any manufacturer or distributor that refuses to sell body armor to Joe Citizen when there's no legal prohibition should have all their other products boycotted. Why do business with someone who believes your life (and freedom) is worth less than that of a cop or soldier?
 
Hey guys

Thought i'd throw my 2 cents in...

I'm going to be getting one of these:
http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.za/acatalog/Civilian_Jacket.html

Easy to throw on, can be worn easily in public etc...
There are also concealible BPV's somewhere on the site...

In a gun fight in my country, it's always against at least 3 armed criminals who have planned and organised (we don't have junkies breaking into houses), the crime stats are close to third world contries, though we have enough economic stability to be classifed as 1st world country !?...

Here, it's a normal occurance to get robbed, hi jacked, mugged etc, and usually with aggrevating circumstances. A BPV is a wise thing indeed :)

Thanks all for a great forum, I just hope to input as much as I have learnt :)
 
Never would consider it for HD! I am likely to emerge from my "cave" buck naked or maybe wearing skivvies if it ain't to hot when I go defensive. My first thought is the obvious... "WHO THE HELL..." second is grab gun. Since it is already sporting one in the chamber I just have to locate than identify intruder as an intruder than I can ELIMINATE the threat while wifey poo call the cleanup crew in blue... While return fire is possible I highly doubt the BG will get the first shot and with gobs of lead headed in his direction at a high rate of speed he likely won't be the straightest shooter. BTW legal ramifications are not a concern.
Brent
 
Hi Mas

Still looking forward to going shooting at Chabot with you, if I can ever get a day off, or, I know your coming out.



I also keep electronic hearing, and, my 500 Max linebaugh, .475 Linebaugh FA 83 as primary weapons, with a 1911 as backup.

I know, and understand your position, but, at my age, I want the fireball from the giant cloud of H110, or 4227, that Hornady uses in their 400 grain HP loading. Figure for those weird bumps in the night, that's the way to go.

Oh yes, the 45 Kimber, with 45 super in it, 230 grains at 1100 fps.
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Most common carry is pepper spray.
 
I think a vest would be a great addition to your defensive playbook if you can afford it. Is it paranoid just to be prepaired? Most situations it probably would not come into play, but it sure would be nice for that 1 in a million scenario where you need it. If I had the money, I'd have one in a flat second.

Saying you don't need a vest, is the same as saying you are overly paranoid for having more than one gun, too much ammo, ect, ect....
 
Wondering how many have first bullet proof vests, second pepper spray, ear protection, etc. ready and close?

Yeah, I've got pepper spray nearby in a kitchen drawer, and hearing protection upstairs in my shooting kit. Plenty of knives and flashlights, too.

As far as wearing a Kevlar vest around the house, no thanks. That's one step too far for me.
 
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