Very nice mini 1911 ... Llama MicroMax 380

artoo said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...fXIkug1sWGyqq1
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"Produced 1978 - 1991"

artoo said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TCNz_d-Bz3h8wL Iver Johnson Pony again.
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"Rare gun made for only a few years is this IVER JOHNSON Pony .380., ..."

I agree with others. That looks more like a Star or Astra than a Llama.
 
The I.J. Pony was a Star design. The frame was made in the US, and most other parts were imported from Star. The gun was originally designed as the Colt "Pony"but that deal fell through. The gun was then sold by Firearms International, until I.J. bought the tooling.
Later guns had more US made parts.
 
I agree with others. That looks more like a Star or Astra than a Llama.
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You're right, I guess my memory's clutch slipped on that one. I had one for a while and for some odd reason remembered it being closer to the Llama than it actually was. I don't know about the Star PD, but it does seem to be in the same family tree as the Star DK, DKL, and DKI. According to Star http://star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/d/index.shtml Colt used a good number of the Star pieces and parts for their Colt Pony's... which I mistakenly assumed was a mini 1911 as well.
 
Many years ago (like 50 or so) I had a tiny little Colt 25 auto that looked a lot like a little 1911. I don't remember a lot of the little details, but I do remember it had a stiff trigger. I can't find a little 25 auto anywhere that looks like it did.
 
Many years ago (like 50 or so) I had a tiny little Colt 25 auto that looked a lot like a little 1911. I don't remember a lot of the little details, but I do remember it had a stiff trigger. I can't find a little 25 auto anywhere that looks like it did.
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Best I know colt has only made two 25s; the 1908 Vest Pocket and the Junior. The 1908 was a JM Browning design and the Junior was actually an Astra design and I think they were made by Astra and rebadged by Colt. Neither looked nor mimicked in any way a 1911.

1908 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

Junior https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-colt-junior-was-the-tiny-gun-that-could-fdf7ade92bc
 
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burrhead said:
Best I know colt has only made two 25s; the 1908 Vest Pocket and the Junior. The 1908 was a JM Browning design and the Junior was actually an Astra design and I think they were made by Astra and rebadged by Colt. Neither looked nor mimicked in any way a 1911.

1908 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

Junior https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-colt-junior-was-the-tiny-gun-that-could-fdf7ade92bc
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It just about had to have been a Colt Jr. I remember the exposed hammer and the vague look of a small 1911. It was a LONG time ago.
 
10-96, As Bill indicated the Colt Pony was short lived having FI provide them with about 100 completed pistols many of which were returned to FI when the project was cancelled. The later Colt Mustang and 380 Government Model were near copies of Star designs as are Kimber Micro and Sig P238/938. I have about thirty of the DK, FI Model D and IJ Pony pistols including one of the pistols that had Colt markings scrubbed and simple FI nomenclature applied very unlike their production guns.
 
The gun intrigues me because I love my Baby Rock. I’ve heard good things about Metro Arms 1911’s, and may have to give this one a shot if I find it at the right price. My dad owns a Baby Browning that shoots well, but just feels like it has too much plastic for my tastes. I like a lot of polymer guns, but any type of 1911 just feels wrong to me if it’s not all metal.
 
My sister has a baby browning .22. It is a super nice pistol. Better bluing than the MicroMax, nicer stock wood grips, etc. etc. But at 3 times the price and its trigger is no better than that of the MicroMax ... it doesn't shoot any better.
 
What do you call this?
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I call that a 1911-22 just like the manufacturer. The gun I referenced is actually named "FN Baby Browning". It's a small thing but correct nomenclature makes communication clearer.
 
jimku said:
What do you call this? It is 80 percent the size of a full-size 1911. The same size as the Baby Rock, so for all intents and purposes it is a Baby Browning.
https://www.browning.com/products/fi...s/1911-22.html
https://youtu.be/KIW25xurZZU
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I call it what Browning calls it: 1911-22

They also offer the same pistol in .380 ACP, and it is cleverly named the 1911-380. Neither is named "Baby Browning." If you choose to call it that, you should understand that there is a firearm that is named the Baby Browning and that has been known by that name for several decades, so applying the "Baby Browning" moniker to a completely different firearm is likely to generate confusion and miscommunication.
 
Aguila Blanca said:
I call it what Browning calls it: 1911-22

They also offer the same pistol in .380 ACP, and it is cleverly named the 1911-380. Neither is named "Baby Browning." If you choose to call it that, you should understand that there is a firearm that is named the Baby Browning and that has been known by that name for several decades, so applying the "Baby Browning" moniker to a completely different firearm is likely to generate confusion and miscommunication.
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OK, so we have the Baby Rock, the Llama MicroMax and the Browning 1911-380 and they are all the same flipping thing other than manufacturer and a minor detail or two. Oh, I love the pedantic among us.
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