Very interesting thread on glocktalk.com

[Mike Irwin]

"You're in a gun shop. Some guy that you've seen in there 2 or 3 times in several months with whom you have not exchanged more than a few sentences of conversation, comes in and says, "Hey, they've just developed a new 45 caliber pistol cartridge that produces 2500fps muzzle velocity but has a damper system that makes it recoil like a 9mm."

By the way...

That's been done.

Ultra lightweight bullets in a .45 Magnum auto casing.

Downrange ballistics generally suck because the bullets are very light.

Light bullet, heavy gun, low recoil. Like a 9mm.

 

[Brian Pfleuger]

There are more than a few people here with long service and high post counts who are, in my estimation, so FOS that their eyes are brown.

There are more than a few people here who are anonymous, with low post counts and who are recent arrivals who are far more credible.

The nature of one's comments (new or old), the manner in which they are delivered, the poster's overall tone...

Those are just a few of the things that add veracity to a poster. Not simply their time of service.

I absolutely agree, that's the point that I was trying to make originally.

I would point out though that the credibility of the recent arrivals stands on shaky ground.

It's very much like real life. You may form a positive first impression and then find out later that any given person is actually an annoying idiot..... but after 20,000 exchanges with that person, well, you've got a much better idea of the "real" person and that opinion is much less likely to change.

 

[madmag]

From the link.

I've never seen a miss with a 9mm of one of these structures that would have been a hit with a .45ACP.

From this thread.

Stop reading about comparative ballistics and spend that time on the range.

Those two statements sum up what I believe to be the truth about pistol caliber comparisons.

 

[NightSleeper]

I think you're overlooking the simple possibility that the "experiences" could be entirely fabricated.

Far too much depth, description and insight in his discussion for me to believe this.

That's the whole point. We have no idea who that poster really is. We have no way of knowing how much of those posts are fact vs fabrication, opinion vs science or assumption vs reality.

Yes, but if you actually read the post you'd see that both Staff and senior members of the board vouch for him. Please don't tell me you think the entire glocktalk.com staff is in on a conspiracy!

I'm not about to read through 10 pages of thread to find out either, and that leaves me with only the information in his public profile... which is ZERO. Hence, my opinion of him is, zero.

Funny, my opinion on someone who doesn't read a person's post and then makes negative comments about it is ZERO ... zip ... nada ....

Surprised? :barf:

Seriously folks .... take the time to actually read the post on glocktalk.com before you bash the poster. You may actually learn something. And save you opinions until after you read the post.

Sheesh ... thought this would be common sense ....

 

[Brian Pfleuger]

I read through two of the 10+ pages. I didn't say that the guy IS a liar, that he IS NOT who he says he is. I said that he has no history and no biography.

You seem to think that "zero" is a negative number. My opinion of the man is "zero". Not negative, not positive, ZERO.

You can read the 10+ pages if you want to do it. I don't.

Ever heard of Gecko_45? Your assertion that a post is too detailed to be fake is laughable.

Oh, and where exactly did I bash the poster? I simply stated that we know little or nothing about him.

 

[mustang66maniac]

Peetzkilla, I think you may be jumping to conclusions about the OP over there on glock talk. The first two pages aren't enough. If you keep reading he tells you his "history" and "biography." Post count and registration date have absolutely nothing at all to do with either of these.

In a nutshell, he is a middle aged crime scene investigator for the Baton Rouge police department and participates and writes reports on autopsies and crime scenes for about 40-70 hours per week. I agree he provides way too much detail to be a farse.

As for the .45 vs 9mm argument. He simply says that a miss with a 9mm isn't a hit with a .45, but the .45 does penetrate better than a 9mm- which also goes in the face of common "internet" knowledge. He also says he has seen more penetration from a FMJ than a JHP in cases like a bullet going thru a door then hitting someone. Most of the time a JHP will either flatten or loose enough velocity to not penetrate the BGs body much when going through a barrier. In addition, he says most of the time, the hollow points get filled with clothing or other material that basically turns them into flat nose bullets and he rarely actually sees them expand. For that reason, he is a bigger believer in FMJ than JHP. Furthermore, a handfull of LEOs chime and and agree with a lot of the stuff he says based on personal experience witnessed in the "real world." If you really want to hear if from the horses mouth, you have to read it in the thread.

It really is a good read and we can all learn something from this guy if we take the time to read the pages of info.

 

[Brian Pfleuger]

Peetzkilla, I think you may be jumping to conclusions about the OP over there on glock talk. The first two pages aren't enough. If you keep reading he tells you his "history" and "biography." Post count and registration date have absolutely nothing at all to do with either of these.

Actually, I was not jumping to ANY conclusions. That's my whole point. I'm not going to read 10+ pages of a thread on a forum to which I do not even belong and about which I have little interest to see if there's a chance that the guy dropped his bio in there somewhere. Hence, what I said in my second comment concerning him-- The guy is "zero" to me. No plus, no minus. Zero. An unknown quantity, and I take his information as such. I'm glad that he has support from the moderators and has left his bio in the thread somewhere. Anyone who is interested in what he has to say should find that information and form an opinion accordingly.

I'm not about to search the entire 50 posts that the guy has made to see if he, somewhere or another, may have dropped his bio. His bio should be in his profile. If it's not there, I'm not digging for it.

Post count and registration date mean nothing. I'm glad that we agree on that.

 

[Shane Tuttle]

Threads posted here on TFL focusing what another person on another board is or isn't, isn't TFL's business. I'm closing this one unless Mike, John or Mal sees it differently.