Very funny, Ruger

It's good to know some folks have a sense of humor. Life is too short to be serious all the time. If they had done that to me I might have smiled and thought, "touche"

I took my Mk iii to ruger in Prescott. They showed me the error of my ways and fixed me.
 
I bought a six inch GP100 and found it to be shooting high, even with the rear sight crank almost all the way down (about 4 to 6 inches high at 50 feet), so I notified Ruger of my problem and sent it back. They returned it to me with a picture of a target with six shots grouped almost dead center if not slightly low, marked '158 grain American Eagle at 15 yards'. Also inside the case was a nice, new Ruger lens cleaner (presumably to clean my glasses with). There was no note or explanation or anything (other than the type of ammo and distance), just the picture of a target and a lens cleaner. Very funny.
haha, Ruger.
 
Have some one else shoot it. It might just be you. I own a Glock 22 that I can't hit the side of a barn with but my buddies are deadly with.
 
One of my grandfather's friends, years ago, had a part time gig as a hunting guide and professional ammo reloader. He also occasionally sold firearms.

He sold a rifle to a man, who later came back and accused him of selling a rifle with a bent barrel. The guy couldn't hit anything with it.

My grandfather's friend, who was 6'4", 250lbs or so and a former Atlantic Fleet heavyweight boxing champion, then called for his wife, who was 5'0" and unassuming looking, to come test her rifle. (It had been hers, before the guy who couldn't hit had bought it.)

My grandfather's friend placed several cans out at around 100 yards.

His wife shot each one, one bullet per can.

The buyer blushed, took the rifle, and slunk back to his car.
 
Diagnostic Targets

Ableacres has a point. Ruger might have actually fixed something on the gun and not mentioned (or billed for) it.

On the other hand, maybe the glasses cleaner was too subtle for some people to "get it". Ruger might have included these:

http://i53.tinypic.com/27wyr11.jpg

http://www.m1911.org/images/diagnostictarget.jpg

The foregoing are just two diagnostic tools I found on this page

http://www.google.com/search?q=diag...-FLIOsjAK8yOyNDQ&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=991&bih=629

by Googling the phrase "Diagnostic Target"

Let us know how it shoots for you now (and for a randomly selected "control" shooter, I am sure you could find a guinea pig, er, volunteer at the range.)

Lost Sheep

p.s. Then there is this target

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=diag...&w=396&h=460&ei=CEhhT8O-McqViALI9bmWDQ&zoom=1
 
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Well played, Ruger. Well played.

Hope you rolled with it and got a smile. Intentional or not, it certainly brought a smile to me this evening.
 
I once sent in a Springfield 1911 for a couple of problems. The first one they fixed. My other complaint was the spring retaining pin missing in my mainspring housing.

They sent me a manual, very similar to the one that came with my gun, except theirs had been opened and read. There was a note saying "Read page #7". The page was bookmarked and on that page was an explanation of the ILS and the little tool that went in the mainspring housing for disassembly, all circled in black magic marker.

Smart-alecks. :D
 
My brother at a pistol range with me had a similiar problem. We were shooting 22s, and he had my dads S&W model 18. He loaded it up with federals and it grouped 6in high at like 10 yds. Then he did 6 more, and the same thing. I wondered about the sights even though I don't know if the sights could even be adjusted to behave that way at that distance.

I then shot the same gun, and it was dead on for me. The point of this story is despite my brother being inexperienced, he had no idea of something that he was doing that caused the high hits happen. Whatever he did was subconcious and so he was not able to correct his 12 o clock hits. The same could be true for you.

Try having a few other people shoot it and try shooting it and having someone watch you. If none of that pans out, try different ammo.
 
Are you shooting slow, heavy ammo? That will cause the gun to shoot high. My M 14 was shooting high with 158 gr cowboy type loads. I had the rear sight screwed all the way down, and it still shot high. Worked well with 125 gr plus P though.


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when I shoot DA my groups are lower than they are SA. The weight of the stiff DA pull means a firmer grip when the gun fires. I have heard several reports of people, especially women, that shoot better DA. For simiautos the DA/SA transition is often discussed.
 
Yep, there are two possibilities. They either fixed it or they're (nicely) suggesting the problem might be with the shooter. A 6-inch GP-100 is not suitable for anything other than target shooting. I'm still miffed that they screwed up the balance and weight of their .357 line of revolvers. They're not as accurate as S&W's 686 or Colt's Python, and they're biased to 158+ gr. bullets. The 686s can shoot heavy or light bullets equally well, but Ruger's idea is that heavy bullets are used for hunting and light bullets are better for self defense and law enforcement. That's not a bad philosophy, but they should have stuck with the Security-Six/Speed-Six line.

The 6-inch Security-Sixes were excellent hunting and outdoor guns, and the 4-inchers were great camping and trail guns. The GP-100s are too heavy and it takes too long to pick up moving targets with those muzzle heavy barrels, in my view. My feeling has always been that if they wanted to add all that steel to the barrels like the Colt Python, they should be as accurate as Colt Pythons. The Smith 686s are just as accurate (at least the first ones were), even though I prefer skinnier barrels.

If your Ruger GP-100 is shooting high, it's possible you're holding it wrong. If you're getting high groups, try shooting from a sandbag rest. If it still shoots high, sell it and get a 686...or a used Security-Six!


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I have a friend that bought a Sigma awhile back. Guy couldn't shoot it straight or on target half the time to save his life. All I heard was this gun doesn't shoot straight. One day we switched guns to see what the issue was and I was able to put every round inside the target. Sometimes you just need that outside perspective.

I sold my sigma 40 because of that. My cousin had a sigma 9mm and shot my 40 just fine. lol

I have 3 357 revolvers, a witness 45, and used to have a hi point 45. I am very good at shooting them.

Oh well haha
 
Now that's funny! They're just calling them like they see them. And I guess they see them (the targets) better than you!:eek:
 
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