I bought a six inch GP100 and found it to be shooting high, even with the rear sight crank almost all the way down (about 4 to 6 inches high at 50 feet), so I notified Ruger of my problem and sent it back. They returned it to me with a picture of a target with six shots grouped almost dead center if not slightly low, marked '158 grain American Eagle at 15 yards'. Also inside the case was a nice, new Ruger lens cleaner (presumably to clean my glasses with). There was no note or explanation or anything (other than the type of ammo and distance), just the picture of a target and a lens cleaner. Very funny.
Very funny, Ruger
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Katsumi Liquer
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Have you tried letting someone else shoot your gun to ascertain if your hold and/or trigger technique might be causing your shots to print high? What kind of ammo were you using? Have you tried shooting it from a bench rest?
If all else fails, you could procure a taller aftermarket front sight to bring the shots down to within the adjustable range of the rear sight. The Hi-Viz FO front sight is actually a smidge taller than the factory sight, and might help bring your groups down. You might also want to take a look at the Marble Arms sights for the Super Redhawk; they fit the GP100 and come in a variety of heights to accommodate the various calibers of the SR.
Edited to add: I do not think Ruger's inclusion of the lens cleaner was intended as a slight at your marksmanship; from my previous experience with sending guns back to Ruger, they normally include little "freebies" (e.g., stickers, ballpoint pens, etc.) with the returned firearms. The rep at Ruger probably just threw whatever was available in with your GP100 when it was being boxed up.
If all else fails, you could procure a taller aftermarket front sight to bring the shots down to within the adjustable range of the rear sight. The Hi-Viz FO front sight is actually a smidge taller than the factory sight, and might help bring your groups down. You might also want to take a look at the Marble Arms sights for the Super Redhawk; they fit the GP100 and come in a variety of heights to accommodate the various calibers of the SR.
Edited to add: I do not think Ruger's inclusion of the lens cleaner was intended as a slight at your marksmanship; from my previous experience with sending guns back to Ruger, they normally include little "freebies" (e.g., stickers, ballpoint pens, etc.) with the returned firearms. The rep at Ruger probably just threw whatever was available in with your GP100 when it was being boxed up.
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aarondhgraham
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It's a conundrum for certain.
I would be taken aback as well,,,
You would think they could write something as an explanation.
But really,,,
What would they have said,,,
Anything they would have written would probably come off as rude.
Hello Sir:
We at Ruger have determined you are simply a bad shot.
Sincerely
Your Friendly Ruger Staff
Aarond
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I would be taken aback as well,,,
You would think they could write something as an explanation.
But really,,,
What would they have said,,,
Anything they would have written would probably come off as rude.
Hello Sir:
We at Ruger have determined you are simply a bad shot.
Sincerely
Your Friendly Ruger Staff
Aarond
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g.willikers
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Maybe the grip is a little too large, especially at the bottom.
That can cause the gun to raise up against your hand, under recoil.
That can cause the gun to raise up against your hand, under recoil.
I consider that VERY amusing. Personally if I'd sent a gun in and the manufacturer sent it back like that I'd get a good laugh out of it then head to the range to practice (since I obviously needed it.)
In my early days of shooting I've done similar things - never sent a gun back because of defective sights - but I've complained about how this gun or that gun just doesn't shoot straight. My father or uncle or other close family friend would then take the gun, shoot bull's eyes with it and hand it back to me. You wouldn't believe how many times I've heard, "It's not the gun buddy..." I've learned to just roll with it and keep shooting.
In my early days of shooting I've done similar things - never sent a gun back because of defective sights - but I've complained about how this gun or that gun just doesn't shoot straight. My father or uncle or other close family friend would then take the gun, shoot bull's eyes with it and hand it back to me. You wouldn't believe how many times I've heard, "It's not the gun buddy..." I've learned to just roll with it and keep shooting.
I have a friend that bought a Sigma awhile back. Guy couldn't shoot it straight or on target half the time to save his life. All I heard was this gun doesn't shoot straight. One day we switched guns to see what the issue was and I was able to put every round inside the target. Sometimes you just need that outside perspective.
Whirlwind06
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So where you shooting 158 grain ammo as well?
Dragline45
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Not sure how much experience you have but most new shooters not used to a heavy double action pull tend to pull shots high.
armoredman
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That is hilarious. Of course, to the OP, he might be like Molly, "T'ain't funny, McGee..." while the rest of the public gets a belly laugh.
I have a friend with a Glock (forget which one, I'm not a Glock guy) and fixed sights; he struggled with getting it to hit at POA on several range trips. Finally I suggested I'd give it a try. First 5 rounds at 7 yards from a bench rest were a 1" group clustered at the "10".
I have a Ruger LCR357 (fixed sights). For me it shoots a little low and dead on left-to-right. For my son the elevation is dead on but POI is a bit left. Love the gun, by the way.
The moral is: the shooter makes as much difference as the sights. Or more.
I have a Ruger LCR357 (fixed sights). For me it shoots a little low and dead on left-to-right. For my son the elevation is dead on but POI is a bit left. Love the gun, by the way.
The moral is: the shooter makes as much difference as the sights. Or more.
That's awesome! I'm glad that a gun company isn't afraid to do something like that.
I just purchased the same gun used (six inch GP100 blue) and the sights were adjusted to their limits. The rear sight was cranked all the way to the right and all the way up. Once adjusted properly the gun was making consistent 2-inch groups at 25 yards with an assortment of ammo.
The previous owner obviously needed some practice.
I just purchased the same gun used (six inch GP100 blue) and the sights were adjusted to their limits. The rear sight was cranked all the way to the right and all the way up. Once adjusted properly the gun was making consistent 2-inch groups at 25 yards with an assortment of ammo.
The previous owner obviously needed some practice.
A skeet shooting buddy always complained he could never hit more than 16 clays with his Nikko overunder and was going to sell it.So...we switched guns the next round and I hit 23 with it. I never should have shot it first because he changed his mind about selling it! That was ten years ago and he still has it lol
I have found, over the years, that most of my early guns had sights that were badly regulated.
I was always adjusting them. The more I learned to shoot, the sights gradually got adjusted closer to the original factory setting...
What helped me over the years was letting someone who did a LOT of handgun shooting try my problem child out. After they shot, I asked them to critique my shooting.
Most of the time it was me.
I don't think Ruger was trying to give you grief. That kind of behavior from a representative of the company can get that person shown to the door.
Don't make more out of it than it is.
Geetarman
I was always adjusting them. The more I learned to shoot, the sights gradually got adjusted closer to the original factory setting...
What helped me over the years was letting someone who did a LOT of handgun shooting try my problem child out. After they shot, I asked them to critique my shooting.
Most of the time it was me.
I don't think Ruger was trying to give you grief. That kind of behavior from a representative of the company can get that person shown to the door.
Don't make more out of it than it is.
Geetarman
LOL- that' funny. It's good to see a sense of humor now days......
Stay after the GP100- like others have stated good trigger time will probably bring the POA closer.
There are so many things that can make guns shoot in different places, good news is you have ruled out one potential problem, "Something is wrong with the gun".
I have no idea what your pistol experience is but you might try some light load 38spl's then go to 357mag. Just be sure to clean the chambers good after shooting a bunch of 38spl's.
Best wishes
Stay after the GP100- like others have stated good trigger time will probably bring the POA closer.
There are so many things that can make guns shoot in different places, good news is you have ruled out one potential problem, "Something is wrong with the gun".
I have no idea what your pistol experience is but you might try some light load 38spl's then go to 357mag. Just be sure to clean the chambers good after shooting a bunch of 38spl's.
Best wishes