Very Disturbing News report on AZs Sgt. Haab making Citizens arrest

IMHO: the correct "term" *MUST* start with the word "Criminal"

Criminal Migrant, Criminal Immigrant, what ever you want to call them. I'm sick of the PC liberal crap that treats them as non criminals.

I could, however.. be in favor of adding "felony" to the front of that.. ;-)
 
K_dawg,

The problem is that it's not technically true. Some people who immigrate illegally are by law allowed to stay. Happens every day. There are due process considerations that require court proceedings for punishment, just like for any other crime.

Regardless, I like Rich Lucibella's point about double jeopardy. I don't think it's fair or just, in most cases, for a guy to be cleared of criminal wrongdoing by local authorities to have to worry about round two under the federal government.

Edit: I just saw your second post, k_dawg.

Under no legal or even generally used sense of the term is an illegal immigrant an "unlawful combatant," only because of illegal immigration. Not even close. Unlawful combatants are people like Osama bin Laden, who conduct warfare and terrorist attacks with no legitimate state authority to do so. I think it cheapens the whole war on terror, and actually supports the terrorist's claims about who is and is not fair game for an attack, to call an illegal immigrant an "unlawful combatant."
 
shootinstudent,

The term migration is more suited to these roaming and arbitrary transients. Immigration is not only associated with the beginning intention of a permanent move across a political border - but with a process in order to attain permanent status under the laws of that country. In times past in this country that included a thorough screening for infectious diseases among other things.
 
LAK,

Look up "immigration" the dictionary. The fact that you want a word to carry some specific meaning, does not mean that it will for everyone else.
 
AZ & Sgt. Haab

This is just another tug of war between liberals and conservatives, Dems & GOP if you will, gun haters and gun
freedom loving people. Illegal invader lovers & Americans for our Republic.........

The end of this type of legalistic jousting is not over and there will always something for the bellyachers to whine about, The NRA, GOA, and like organizations are our best weapon presently.
 
Shootinstudent,
Look up "immigration" the dictionary. The fact that you want a word to carry some specific meaning, does not mean that it will for everyone else.
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From the Merriam-Webster dictionary: http://www.m-w.com/

Migration
1: To move from one country, place, or locality to another;
2: To pass usually periodically from one region or climate to another for feeding or breeding;
3: To change position in an organism or substance.

Immigration
1: To enter and usually become established;
2: To come into a country of which one is not a native for permanent residence.


I think what LAK said fits pretty good. Clearly the term migration implies a temporary and transient nature while immigration clearly has a permanent connotation and a definite association with legally making a country your new home.
 
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shootinstudent,

What are you complaining about; in this day and age a word is just a word, and can mean "anything you want it to mean". Language just evolves - everything is gray and foggy.

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