Vermont Carry (Problem ?)

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Folks,
Being a Vermonter has its privileges namely the ability to carry 14 revolvers and a backup if I want just about anywhere. :D The issue I am running into however is this. Because my state does not issue CCW there is no resiprosity with states that do. I of course have the option to file for an out of state CCW to the states I would like to be able to carry in. My question is this.

As a holder of an out of state ccw say New Hampshire do I get to enjoy the reseprosity that a resident license holder would enjoy? NH residents with a CCW can carry in several other states and I am wandering if this would apply to me as well.

I am looking to get as few Non Resident CCWs as possible so I can travel and visit family while carrying if I so choose.

Regards, Vermonter
 
Try using this mapping tool: You click on the permits that you have (or plan to get) and the map will tell you where you can carry.


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It's likely that a Florida non resident CCW is the easiest and most valuable one you can get.
New Hampshire non-resident permits are not as widely accepted.

Some states have differing reciprocity depending on if you are a resident permot holder v/s a non resident.
It's important to know the laws when you travel.




Willie

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OP is making a good point. Some states require you to be a resident of the State in which you have the permit in order for them to reciprocate, others do not. More do not than do, fortunately.
 
A lot depends on where you are going. Some states (out your way, PA, VA, OH and KY, out my way, OR, WA, ID, MT, NV, WY, AZ....) all have open carry available without a license. In WA (and AZ) there are times when you can CC without a permit if you want to. May be in the other states too, just don't know for sure. WY CC without a permit is for residents only.

There are quite a few states that will accept any state's permits. You might read their laws to see if they made special provision for VT. There are other states (like NY, NJ, MD, CA), that I think the best thing is to send there tourism board a letter and state, I went on extensive hiolliday this year..we did not go to your state because of your restrictive carry laws.
 
Thus, I moved to Florida.....Not only because of the great weather.
It's a firearm owners paradise.....and those fine folk in North Florida, still refuse to accept the Civil War ended.
 
Vermont is great where guns are concerned. It is the way it should be everywhere. Unfortunately, because there is no licensing at all I don't know of any states that will issue a non resident permit. That's something you'll have to check out. NY being NY recognizes no one. NYC even threatened out of state active police officers with arrests if they came to the city armed from Florida I believe. They came and left happily.

Being a retired police officer and licensed to carry concealed, I can qualify each year for permission to carry in all states under Federal Law HR218. I think retired police officers in Vermont may also have a problem, since HR218 requires a license where you reside.

Because I'm lazy and spend a lot of time in Pa. I simply got a Florida carry, which is good for 5 years. Different states that accept licenses from other states sometimes restrict those licenses to only residents of those states. Be careful. For example, being a non Florida resident many states like NH won't allow me to carry there, cause they only recognize Florida residents. A friend of mine has a target permit in NY and wanted a cwp in Pa., cause he has a vacation home there, but was told because he didn't have a concealed carry in NY they wouldn't give it to him. He then got a cwp from Florida and can now carry in Pa..
 
Florida will issue a resident of any state, including Vermont, a non resident permit.

It can be done thru the mail.

It is the most widely reciprocated CCW in the USA.

Just get one....


Willie

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It's true that some states only recognize permits held by other states by residents of those states. Colorado is being sued over this - oral arguments in a federal circuit court appeal in the Peterson case are happening on the 19th of this month.

Gray Peterson is a WA state resident with both that and a Utah permit. CO recognizes UT permits but only by UT residents. Worse, the city of Denver refuses to recognize open carry so Peterson has no legal carry recourse at all in Denver.
 
I think if I lived in Vermont,I probably would not leave it to go anywhere unless it was necessary.
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Living here, that is the attitude I have assumed. I've done a lot of traveling, and now I really like being at home.

I am listening closely to this, though, as the lack of reciprocity is an issue for us in VT. About the only drawback I can think of of having such sensible gun laws; there's nothing for other states to recognize.
 
Veromonter, the answer is: it depends.

I ran into the same problem with having a RI CCW. No one has reciprocity (well, just a very few and it's not 2-way reciprocity). So I can get a Florida if I want, but there are a number of states that will not recognize it because it is not my state of residence. A number of the states will, some will not. You need to check each state to confirm.

I ended up getting a CT, NH, ME and PA license because they were easy and the places I generally go. I would like to get a MASS license but it's a little more difficult and costs $100 a year- and you have to reapply EVERY year. I just do my best to stay out of MASS if I can.
 
I think if I lived in Vermont,I probably would not leave it to go anywhere unless it was necessary.
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I came to this conclusion in 1994 after returning from SLC, Utah on a 6-month stint for work...

I have not left the borders of Vermont since then, except for the occasional troll across the deep water line into New York while fishing Salmon...
 
If I could find work in VT, I would move there myself. Best state in the Union. Hands down. I can find no fault with Vermont. And half of my ancestors are buried there and founded most of the villages in the Northeast Kingdom. Just another bonus.
 
GunsmokeTPF said:
Being a retired police officer and licensed to carry concealed, I can qualify each year for permission to carry in all states under Federal Law HR218. I think retired police officers in Vermont may also have a problem, since HR218 requires a license where you reside.
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No it doesn't. It requires that you be requalified annually by the department from which you retired or, if you live out of state, by the state police in your state of residence, and you must carry with you documentation of your retired status and your qualification. I am 98.73 percent certain there is no requirement to hold a carry license/permit from your home state. Please cite the portion of the law that says this.
 
And this is the biggest reason I rank Alaska above Vermont as far as best gun state... Alaska residents can get a permit for reciprocity with other states, yet no one in Alaska needs a permit to carry (Constitutional Carry, mirror of VT's)...

Florida non-res permit is your best bet. Widely accepted, though some states do not recognize non-res permits.
 
Ah, but Alaska is huge and in the middle of Canada. Vermont is a gorgeous state, within spitting distance of Boston, Worcester, Amherst/Northampton (which are a lot of fun), Hartford and even New York. In Vermont, you're actually within a reasonable distance to American civilization, if you desire. In Alaska you might as well be in another country (and those Canadians are all weird).
 
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