Velocity & Accuracy?

Hawg, I shoot my 1858 with 23gr of 777, still using up 100's of .451 balls, no wads and #11 CCI. I get results I'm happy with. What is your opinion on this load?
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If you're happy with it that's all that matters. That's about 26 1/2 grains of bp. I won't use less than 30 in a 44. I do not paper punch so I don't care about how tight it will group. I use .454 balls and a lubed wad. As long as I can hit a Coke can at 25 yards more often than not I'm a happy camper.
 
I use Pyrodex. I can get 777 but it's almost twice as much as Pyro. 209 can't be used with percussion caps and is over three times the price of Pyro.
 
Hawg-
What are you paying for Pyrodex? Last three pounds of 777 FFFG I bought were $27 each. The Blackhorn was about $35 a pound. Nice for the inline rifle and shotgun, don't have much experience with it, but seems quite good so far. I load light.
Wish I could find some GOEX or similar around here.
The big stores are getting $35 for 777. Seems to be all they stock.
Life in Mass, rules, regs and restrictions everywhere you look :mad:
 
I bought my .44 ruger as a close range weapon for deer. Sometimes when I'm in my stand, I get surprise shots that are 10 to 15 yards, and put me in a situation where I just can't get the rifle turned around for a shot, so I can draw my pistol from my belly holster without as much movement. This gives me deer in the freezer, that I would not have gotten otherwise.

I'm like Hawg, I figure if I can hit a can at 25 yards, that's all the accuracy I need from the gun. They don't call me "Wild Bill" because I'm a sharp shooter.;)
 
Been an intresting string!
Personally I feel that anything you can do to increase accuracy is worthwile and if higher velocities mean accuracy then load em heavy!
If you can shoot more accuratelly, than those cans will die faster and more often. I think it's ludricus to limit yourself to a "Minute of Beercan" when you can go for sub 2 "!
They all prefer different things to shoot most accurate. Find it and stick with it.
ZVP
 
if higher velocities mean accuracy
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I've never seen, or experienced, any data showing that to be the case. In my experience accuracy, as measured by group size, increases and then falls off after a certain point as velocity increases. Where the decrease in accuracy occurs varies with the gun and type/shape/mass of projectile.
 
heres the question, when your playing with your powder puff/powder saving slow velocity loads, are you using fillers and such to make sure the bullet gets seated close to the chamber mouth? for some reason i once heard you have to do that with the powder puff loads.
 
Powder puff loads.... Lol.
Shooting 23 gr in the 1858, I usually just shoot powder and ball. Have used corn meal and cream of wheat. Don't really see that it helps much. Maybe its just me.
 
I've tried it. I see no difference where the ball is seated. You might notice a small improvement with a bench rest.
 
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