USS Cole

Ray VonAsch

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Asked after an explosion tore a 20'x30' hole in the side of the ship whether we should go on a world wide terrorist alert, Janet Reno answered " we are considering it". HELLO? Does this strike anyone else as assininely as it does me? Why aren't we on continous alert in these locations ? She then went on to state that security for our people overseas has been a prime concern for WJC !! What do you guys/girls think/ Ray
 
Please pardon my ignorance,

But, just exactly how does Janet Reno have any say whatsoever about this? Is the AG now authorized to call world-wide security alerts?

Can the Postmaster General call in a missile strike? Now that would be interesting!
 
JJR, I have no idea what say she has. None, I hope. It may be faulty logic, which I have certainly been accused of using before, but I assumed the AG was the highest ranking DOMESTIC LEO. Of course we all know what assume stands for! Ray
 
The DOJ has responsibility for crimes against American citizens or property anywhere in the world, not just in the US. Accordingly, the AG has authority to talk about crimes against the US or American citizens no matter where they occur.
 
Morons "Asked if it could have been deliberate." :mad:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>DUBAI (Reuters) - An explosives-laden boat rammed a U.S. Navy destroyer in a Yemeni port on Thursday in what U.S. officials said was an apparent suicide bombing that killed four sailors aboard the warship.

Navy officials in Bahrain, where the Fifth Fleet is based, said the small boat rammed into the USS Cole, one of the world's most advanced guided missile destroyers.

The blast also injured 36 others aboard, five seriously. Twelve were missing several hours after the explosion caused a big hole on the left side of the listing vessel, which was on a refueling stop in Yemen's southern port of Aden.

``We have every reason to suspect it was a terrorist blast and no reason to suspect that it wasn't,'' one defense official told Reuters in Washington.

The attack came amid mounting anti-U.S. sentiment in much of the Arab world, including Yemen, over Washington's perceived support for Israel during two weeks of fierce Israeli-Palestinian violence.

The White House said President Clinton (news - web sites) expressed horror at the attack on the Cole.

U.S. officials said reports from the scene indicated that two men aboard the small boat that was assisting the Cole with mooring lines in the Aden harbor stood at attention just before the blast destroyed the boat and ripped a hole in the side of the ship.

``This is looking more and more like terrorism,'' a senior Defense Department official said. ``Of course, you can't confirm anything without a full investigation -- but that's what is looks like -- deliberate murder.''

Albright Defiant, Vows Action

A defiant Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said the United States would not be cowed by the attack.

``We will continue taking every step we can to protect our troops and our diplomats but we will not retreat from our responsibilities,'' Albright said.

She added Washington would take all measures to protect its people, but added: ``It does not mean we can crawl into an ostrich-like mode. We are eagles.''

On the day of the attack on the warship, Israeli helicopter gunships blasted Palestinian targets in the West Bank and Gaza Strip with missiles to avenge the killing of two Israeli soldiers by a lynch mob.

Navy spokesperson Lieutenant Meghan Mariman said in Washington that the U.S. sailors were trying ``very hard to keep the ship afloat,'' adding that the vessel was carrying about 300 people.

The last major attack on U.S. targets was in August 1998 when twin blasts rocked the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing more than 250 people.

Yemen Says Blast Not Deliberate Act

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh offered his condolences to Clinton and the ``friendly American people'' but said he believed the blast was not caused by a deliberate act.

State-run Yemeni television said Saleh spoke by telephone to Albright and assured her that Sanaa was investigating the blast.

Lieutenant-Commander Daren Pelkie, spokesman for the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, told Reuters: ``A U.S. army major saw a rubber raft run into the ship, causing the explosion.''

He said the destroyer, commissioned in 1996, had been refueling in Aden when the explosion occurred at 12:15 p.m. Bahrain time.

The Arleigh Burke Class destroyer Cole is one of the world's most sophisticated warships.

The 505-foot-long Cole, with a crew of about 350, is equipped with an advanced Aegis radar defense with missiles and guns to protect itself and aircraft carrier battle groups against simultaneous attack by planes, missiles and ships.

Asked if the explosion was a deliberate attack, Pelkie said: ``We don't know why a rubber raft would be carrying explosives.''

``The explosion was big enough to cause a 20-foot by 40-foot'' gash in the left side of the ship along the waterline and that the vessel was listing four degrees.

Lieutenant Terrence Dudley from the Fifth Fleet said: ``USS Cole has been stabilized and the flooding has been contained. Luckily there have been no fires.''

Yemeni officials earlier said the blast occurred inside the vessel.

``Preliminary information indicates that the explosion happened inside the ship in the supplies section,'' a Yemeni naval official, who declined to be identified, told Reuters.

But Dudley said: ``We know it (the blast) occurred externally. An investigation is underway.''

In Aden, witnesses said the explosion was so powerful that it rattled buildings near the port, one of the Arabian peninsula's largest.
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its understood that this "rubber boat" was assisting with the lines while helping tie-up the Cole. She was, I believe getting tied to a refueling barge to replenish fuel on the way to the Gulf. A good cover to get close to her. So what happened to security? Whats under the blankets guys, a shaped charge, or more line?
 
What a bittersweet day for me.

I was in the middle of completing my checkout process to get out of the Navy when I heard about this. I started to re-enlist on the spot, but that wasn't an option as my discharge is medical in nature, and I am not even eligible for the reserves.

From the looks of the pictures I have seen, that blast must have been right around the area where the electrical shop is typically located. I have been on the Cole a couple of times, and know the layout of Arleigh Burke class destroyers pretty well. There's a small arms magazine right in that vicinity as well. I wonder if THAT was the target. It would make a LOT of sense if it were: take out the ship's defense capability, then board her. No armed resistance would have been possible. Pretty scary stuff.

That's one huge hole, too. I am impressed that the ship is still afloat. It's a tribute to her crew that she's not resting on the bottom right now.

Pray for the families of the dead, and the wounded and missing, too. They're gonna need it.

And let's go find out who did this and kick their ass.
 
Let's go find out HOW they did this , and eliminate the next time The families have all of our prayers. Seems like very lax security for where they were. Ray
 
I'm sure Klinton will go get the perps like he did in Somalia and elsewhere. I think we should send Janet personally and tell her not to come back until the job is done to all our satisfactions.

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"In my opinion, anyone pushing through anti-gun legislation is a bloody traitor and should be sent up for treason" N.H. Stuart
 
What we should do re this stunt, and or any that are similar in nature, past, present and or future, is as follows, assuming that we can find out who did it, as well as who was responsible.

Find out who.

Having done that, QUIETY, as the saying goes, "terminate with extreme prejudice". No breast beating of other forms of shouting required nor are they desirable. The message will always get through to those who need to be "informed".
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bulldozer:
Three words...Osama bin Laden.[/quote]


Three Words... "TURN ME LOOSE"!
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There's a major difference between the Maine and the Cole.

It was "supposed" that the Maine was the victim of violence toward America; but the explosion which sank the Maine may have been a horrible accident.

Preparing and delivering a near-fatal charge to the Cole could hardly be "accidental". A 20x40 foot hole is a rather significant hole for a rubber boat to cause inadvertently.

Do we have any descriptions or eye-witness accounts *other* than the Major's?

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 12, 2000).]
 
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