Using cover, crowding cover in IDPA

I'm not tuned into the national level but some of our local guys do have military and/or police experience. They do play by the game rules. We have active service shoot with us.

The IDPA journal has said it's not training quite a few times.
 
The authors of the IDPA rule book, BW himself and his little match officals know very, very little on the suject of real world tactical pistol fighting. Many of these self proclaimed definsive shooting organizers have never carried or used guns in the normal course of employment, they never served the Military in a forward area, their firearms related work has not been adopted or publically recognized by any state level law enforcement agencey or training academy. There is little wonder when its commercial particpants find the application of certain rules a bit confusing.

Walt Rauch was a cop and Secret Service Agent, and Larry Vickers spent a few years in the army, so they may have a little background.
 
Remember, you may catch a pre-ricochect when being fired upon too. Both count.

I am aware of RW and LV's experience level and it is painfully obvious their combined contributions have been marginalized by those whom know less.

The lead dog always gets bitten on the butt.

Do yourself a favor, try to enjoy the sport and don't let the guy with the clipboard and the porkchop get your goat.
 
IDPA the Positive side

My Club has big matches, big re amount of competitors, big re pro stages.

Last one 115 competitors.

When acting in the SO you tend to make the odd comment to a new shooter, their 1st match!

You want them, first, to be safe, and you do want them to come back! So they should have a good time. One such gent, fumbling a reload from kneeling,
started to break the 180! I was hands on his hand, so he couldn't! "I am so sorry" he said after his nerve wracking stage.

I gave him a wee demo on the laser rule, and down range is that way! a big smile, he will be back.

One major component of IDPA, and I recognize it is not training as such, the difference in comfort with drawing from concealment, actual skill in hitting the targets, were shooting in different cadences becomes easy, two shots, three or 4/5/6. All skills not available at the local shoot straight on their own.

Watching the hot shots! Seeing what pistols they use (not double/single action!)

And of course, meeting nice people.
 
When he stood in a position that allowed the most natural shooting stance, well back from cover, the threat could "see" him by moving about five feet laterally from its cover position. When the shooter moves inboard and closer to cover, the shooting position (speed/accuracy) is somewhat compromised, but in order for the threat to see much of you, it has to move about fifteen feet from cover.
That's a good reason not to move TOO far back from cover.

There are a few good reasons not to get too close to cover as well.
 
My experience with IDPA and using cover varies from SO to SO. Some call it, others do not. I keep telling myself it's a game and follow the lead of your match SO. Because in a real gunfight, I'd assume when lead is headed in your direction, any cover will do. Maybe even diving under something.
 
Cover?

Hi 9mm1033,

You are very right, reference the SO differing from place to place. But if they are being diligent (not range Nazi's) a cover call gets a quick step back from most competitors, as it should.

"Diving under something" mostly, is not such a good idea, ricochets tend to skip along the ground, about 4" about, above it, yes, right, just were you are!

Way back when, when we first started shooting IDPA, in Canada, the Guy who started it, was an innovator (Sadist!) the common perception was that the gun would jam up (malfunction) if it was fired sideways, ejection port down, as in under a vehicle. The case will jump back in? to the port.

After the called for 4 shots, from every one? No, did not happen, your gun just got dirty (quite a bit of complaining about that!) but it was a good thing to know.
 
I have not seen it called to date at a match but I imagine at some point it will be called. I my self try not to crowd cover being for me it just makes it more difficult to engage targets. I guess the best way to put is we should find that happy medium between the two.;)
 
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