US Post office is anti-2nd amendment

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It's been clear since the post office shootings of days gone by, that they do not want guns on federal postal property. I've visited post offices many times and complied easily without much inconvenience. There are many other places that you're not allowed to have a firearm on the property. The post office is not unique.

Fudging the rules at the mall is one thing; federal property is not the place to fudge the rules. I doubt that anyone is checking cars at the PO, but the principal still exists.
 
For the few minutes I am in the PO, I leave my gun in the console of my car, and park right in front of it in the street. Closer than the parking lot and there's not a damn thing they can do about that.
 
Skans ......My car is private property. A firearm being stored in my car is being stored on private property...
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No, it's not.
Your car isn't parked on "private property"......it's parked on public property.

Their property, their rules.
 
The USPS is a Federal building and property. The USPS also is under homeland security since most do passports. Trust me, many Federal employees would like to CCW when going to and from work. Their solution was to park OFF the premises of the Federal property. A can of worms is the "school zone" crap. Lets face it, gun owners today are like smokers 20 years ago. If they don't ban together and fight back, all their rights will be taken from them.
 
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The law is ambiguous at best. Having a gun locked up in a car while it is temporarily parked in a public parking lot so that a person can quickly drop off a letter is a far cry from any reasonable or rational definition of "storage of firearms". I think the law pertains to federal workers storing firearms on the property. Lots of laws have been written to address this in far more specific terms than this one. The law is ambiguous and I'd argue unenforceable against a licensed CCW with gun locked up inside of a vehicle while the CCW patron is dropping off a letter or package.

You can look at schools, courthouses, airports and a variety of other places where the law is exceedingly clear where you can and cannot have your gun.

In any event, I doubt that this law will ever be tested as there simply would be no circumstance presented where a police officer would be given the opportunity to search a vehicle while someone runs in to drop off a letter. And, since I have no intention of breaking the law, because I have no intention of storing firearms on post office property, I'm not going to worry about this law one bit.
 
I would argue that most places that prohibit firearms, likely do so purely for liability/culpability/answerability reasons and not some sort of anti- 2nd motive.
 
The "official purposes" wording is far from clear, and could be an arguable component of a defense.

Since the "official business" of the PO is MAILING items, if you're there to mail an item & happen to be wearing your concealed weapon, it could be argued that you ARE there on official business.

You are also allowed, despite the regulation quoted, to carry a gun into the PO for mailing, so that's a direct contradiction to that regulation right there.

Denis
 
So do we just ignore the big freekin sign on the door? I'm sure that carries some weight of the law since it's federal property
 
I'm NOT advocating pushing the issue.
I'm just saying their regs are contradictory & the issues COULD be argued in court.

"You can't carry a gun on the property..."
"You can mail a long gun on the property..."

That's one issue.

The other is the definition of "official business".

Best to just not carry concealed on their property.

What you do as far as parking lots & shared property/premises go is up to you to decide.

My local official PO has street parking in front. I can leave the gun in the car.
My local un-official PO is a counter inside a retail store that conducts PO business as a secondary function of its operation.
They don't tell me whether I can carry inside & have zero legal rights to any parking lot prohibitions.

You work out your best deal in balancing what you have locally with your own risk level.
There are simply some places your gun can't go.

Bummer, but you're still infinitely farther ahead of people in places like New York City & other foreign countries where there's no concealed carry at all. :)
Denis
 
No concealed carry in NYC? Just watched an old Blue Bloods, Danny's Wife went to apply for a Carry Permit in NYC, was told 3 months?

Then flashed her connection to the PC. "Will 3pm be OK?" Then went to a Gun Shop, and bought a Snub Nose. Her original reason, being a Nurse, working the midnight shift.

So where did that research come from?

Reference the Post Office, I drive my Wife, she does the transactions.
 
Just making a semi-humorous reference to NYC & other foreign countries. :)
Don't take it literally.
Denis
 
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