US Gun Laws - best State to live in?!
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As opposed to "may issue". If the jurisdiction is "may issue", then the local authorities may decide to issue you a carry permit or not, even if you have no "red flags" on your record. It is their perrogative to issue it or not, and often becomes something of a "favor" to be handed out to "favored" people. "Must issue", on the other hand, means that they have to issue the permit if there are no "red flags" on your record. It is much easier to get a permit in a "must issue" jurisdiction.
Possibly so. It depends on the reciprocity agreements between the states. For instance, a Ga permit holder can carry in Tn, Al and Fl just fine, but not in SC which has no reciprocity agreement with Ga. www.packing.org has the rundown on just which states recognize which other states' permits. Yes, it means that you have to do your homework.
Again, you have to do your homework, at www.packing.org, it is a real PITA. It may mean that you have to keep your handgun locked in a case in the trunk while transiting the negative state, or some such. You might have to go completely around some particuarly nasty ones. Each jurisdiction has their own rules on just what you can and can't do. It's a minefield out there, folks!
Then be sure to check out www.packing.org. As far as hunting restrictions, you will have to check out the respective states' web sites for hunting restrictions (Ga's is here), it varies by state (and county!) and there are no central repositories for information about hunting regulations like there are about CCW, at least not that I am aware of.
Quite right -- well, at least when buying from dealers, when you would have to pass the federal background check -- it takes about 20 minutes. In-state, face-to-face purchases between private individuals don't involve that check -- yet. Some states make you have to go through a seperate purchasing permit process and/or have waiting periods. Not Ga -- all we have to do is show up at the dealer, pay our money for the gun, they run the federal check, and you pay the nominal fee for the check -- in and out in about 20 minutes or so as long as there aren't any red flags on the background check.
Additionally, in some states your concealed carry permit is all you need to show at the time of purchase. The BATF&E has recently started nixing certain states that allow this as the state does not do a complete background check that would be comparable to the NICs check.
So far, Idaho hasn't had this problem. So I can walk into a store, fill out the form 4473, show my CCW, pay the money and walk out with my firearm.
In further checking various states, you will find that some allow for the ownership of machineguns. That's a whole other topic though. It can be a pain to get permission the first time around. Idaho is also one of those states.
So far, Idaho hasn't had this problem. So I can walk into a store, fill out the form 4473, show my CCW, pay the money and walk out with my firearm.
In further checking various states, you will find that some allow for the ownership of machineguns. That's a whole other topic though. It can be a pain to get permission the first time around. Idaho is also one of those states.
This is a really cool sight to compare the carry laws of all 50 states. Definitely worth a look.... http://www.ccrkba.org/ccwstudy.html
jacobtowne
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"Hmmm...I am sure I read that somewhere, but it may be for hunting only? you may not be allowed to hunt with rifles in some states? Does that sound right?"
That's partly true. In some heavily populated areas, centerfire rifles are not allowed for certain types of hunting.
In Mass., deer may be hunted only with shotguns (smoothbore or rifled), muzzleloading muskets and rifles, are bow and arrow.
Black bear, on the other hand, are hunted here with handguns and centerfire rifles, shotguns prohibited. Go figure.
JT
That's partly true. In some heavily populated areas, centerfire rifles are not allowed for certain types of hunting.
In Mass., deer may be hunted only with shotguns (smoothbore or rifled), muzzleloading muskets and rifles, are bow and arrow.
Black bear, on the other hand, are hunted here with handguns and centerfire rifles, shotguns prohibited. Go figure.
JT
Kentucky
Kentucky has to be one of the best. State constitution guarantees an individual's right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves subject only to concealed carry laws. In other words, you can carry openly practically everywhere except schools and courts. Firearm in a glove box is not concealed (but a console storage area is not a glove box). State laws preempt local ordinances.
Concealed carry law is a "shall issue" law. Can carry in most places except schools, courts, legislative bodies, and where businesses post notice.
On the down side, if you ever find yourself in a duel, you are disqualified from holding public office.
Kentucky has to be one of the best. State constitution guarantees an individual's right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves subject only to concealed carry laws. In other words, you can carry openly practically everywhere except schools and courts. Firearm in a glove box is not concealed (but a console storage area is not a glove box). State laws preempt local ordinances.
Concealed carry law is a "shall issue" law. Can carry in most places except schools, courts, legislative bodies, and where businesses post notice.
On the down side, if you ever find yourself in a duel, you are disqualified from holding public office.
Wildalaska
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he wanted the best.....
Alaska and vermont.....
Open and concealed carry without permit, class 3 ok...alaska also has shall issue permits that can be used to acoid the instant check and allow concealed carry in other states....
WildalaskaAlaska
Alaska and vermont.....
Open and concealed carry without permit, class 3 ok...alaska also has shall issue permits that can be used to acoid the instant check and allow concealed carry in other states....
WildalaskaAlaska
andersencs
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Anywhere but California, N.J or Mass.
Anywhere other than the people's republic of Kalifornia, Marxichusettess or New Jersey. Oregon is pretty decent, as are Idaho, Montana, Alaska and Utah. Here in Washington, he have had "shall issue" for decades but class II and III are verbotin.
Anywhere other than the people's republic of Kalifornia, Marxichusettess or New Jersey. Oregon is pretty decent, as are Idaho, Montana, Alaska and Utah. Here in Washington, he have had "shall issue" for decades but class II and III are verbotin.
Illinois has to be near the bottom of the list. Just a hair above California, Mass, NY, NJ.
In Illinois:
- You can't buy so much as a box of .22lr bullets without a state issued ID. No firearms of any kind without the FOID.
- Probably tied with NY for the rate at which abhorrent legislation is introduced. CONSTANT attempts at AW/.50 bans (there's a run up right now, right on schedule :/). Other interesting attempts in recent years include limits on ammo (and component) storage, permanent record keeping of all sales (de facto registration) and even an AW variant that could have made nearly all handguns illegal.
- Cook County (Chicago area) has 100% handgun and AW bans in place.
- Recently had "gun show loophole" legislation in place. No more walking out of a gun show with a gun for us.
- State R's are total Rino's. The only thing keeping us afloat is down-state Democrats and a small scattering of R's. On the other hand, the freaking voters in the South keep delivering us horrible legislators.
Avoid Illinois like the plague. Bad, bad times.
In Illinois:
- You can't buy so much as a box of .22lr bullets without a state issued ID. No firearms of any kind without the FOID.
- Probably tied with NY for the rate at which abhorrent legislation is introduced. CONSTANT attempts at AW/.50 bans (there's a run up right now, right on schedule :/). Other interesting attempts in recent years include limits on ammo (and component) storage, permanent record keeping of all sales (de facto registration) and even an AW variant that could have made nearly all handguns illegal.
- Cook County (Chicago area) has 100% handgun and AW bans in place.
- Recently had "gun show loophole" legislation in place. No more walking out of a gun show with a gun for us.
- State R's are total Rino's. The only thing keeping us afloat is down-state Democrats and a small scattering of R's. On the other hand, the freaking voters in the South keep delivering us horrible legislators.
Avoid Illinois like the plague. Bad, bad times.
Death from Afar
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What about North Western US? I really want to visit Washington, Montana etc ( Just love the show Deadwood- would love to vist there) - so how do those states stand? ( Sorry about the questions. but some US service men I met in sandier places want me to come and stay, so its a good chance to visit the US) ...
MeekAndMild
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Death From Afar: Here is one listing of states and the restrictiveness of their gun laws. Basically the grades range from A to F with A being most draconian and F being the most liberal. (F stands for Freedom in this case.) I wasn't able to find the 2005 list. I suppose the bastards were too busy choking on Judge Samuel Alito's supreme court nomination to post it.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/reportcards/2004/details.pdf
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/reportcards/2004/details.pdf