I have gone to several Taurus forums and one person in particular has really been down on Taurus. Makes statements like" it is life threatening to carry one for self defense" because they are complete junk etc. I would like to commend Taurus based on my personal experience as an owner and on what a couple of my friends say about their Taurus hand guns. I have owned a Judge for about 10 years: not one single problem and I shoot it monthly with my self made #4 buck shot .410 ammo and jacketed hollow points. I feel it is the ultimate home defense hand gun (in the night stand drawer). I don't have children and remove it when I have company with kids. I also have a defense strobe light with it. I and several buddies all have slim 709 9mm semi autos and all of them shoot flawlessly. I have put over 1000 rounds through my 709 and clean it every time after shooting at the range. I have just ordered a PT-22 ply. I am beginning to think the guy who dislikes them so much may have been a fired, mad as hell employee. I will let everyone know what I think about the PT 22 after i clean and lube it out of the box and shoot 3-500 rounds through it. I plan on carryiing it as a pocket backup for my 9mm which I carry at all times. There is one site that talks about renting out concealed carry autos for use after the mandatory course for a CC liscense in Texas: the Taurus 709 being the only one they get 10,000 rounds through with out breakdown. All other compacts end up with broken parts before 10,000 as a rule they say. So to all you Taurus owners out there: keep them clean, don't limp wrist them, and keep on shooting. I am not associated with Taurus in any way. I just shoot them. A reliable CC weapon at a great cost for an old retired gun lover.