Unexpected Hard Rap On My Bedroom Window

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Sometimes, in these types of situations, it seems there is never an absolutely correct way of handling it.
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See? You didn't need us. You knew the correct answer all along.

You used your best judgment and dealt with the facts as they became apparent. That's the right answer.
 
You can mow your lawn with an AR on your back and a pistol on your side if you choose and there is nothing that can be done to you... Even if a terrified neighbor complains...
I don't mow with a concealed weapon due to rust issues and sweating...:D
Brent
 
Yes in florida "at the home" is defined as inside the property lines but not the public easement portion of sidewalk. The closest I come to concealed on my place is carrying in the front pocket but if I am investigating My gun is ready to go with my thumb resting on the safety. I routinely answer knocks on the door after dark (if I cannot identify the person) or anything that get my house dogs into condition red with a loaded shotgun...
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Yeah, I can openly or concealed carry anywhere on my property. That includes the front lawn. I have businesses near my house, like just over the chain link fence so usually I just conceal it so as not to startle the flower shop employees and customers.


One thing he learned was that in FL, if the shape of gun shows through your clothing you are not in compliance with the law. That's less of an issue here. What do you know about that?
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I can carry whatever I like however I like on my own property. That's law. Once I hit the sidewalk, I would be in violation, so technically, I can't CCW the 3 feet to the mailbox...lol


See? You didn't need us. You knew the correct answer all along.
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Well, it never hurts to get a second opinion. Plus, I thought it would be a good thing to mention to the other guys, seeing as how it gives them another home defense scenario to run through. Seems like you can't have your bases covered enough.

If one other guy reads the thread and they are more prepared for a similar scenario and it winds up happening to them, then I feel I've done us all a service.


You used your best judgment and dealt with the facts as they became apparent. That's the right answer.
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That's mighty nice of you to say. I don't know if that is precisely correct...lol...but it sure sounded good. I'll take it. Thanks.:)
 
NEVER LEAVE YOUR HOUSE TO CHECK OUT A STRANGE NOISE WITH A WEAPON!!!
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I'll agree with Mike here. Why in the world would you leave a position of superiority and control to go out and wander into an unknown situation when there is no need? Being in the house, in a defensive posture, you have all the advantages. Leaving the house you lose that to a great extent. Call the police and let them check things out.

Night Watch summed it up well:
"....always bring the other party into where I want them to be rather than the other way around."
 
If at all possible, I would rather keep the bloody mess outside...:D Momma will gripe thru the entire cleanup inside...:rolleyes:
In all seriousness I have as much desire to know what is going on before they enter as after. I am also doing my best to save a life. If they enter it is a high likely hood they will be getting shot. If I meet them outside they have a 50/50 chance of survival.
Brent
 
In all seriousness I have as much desire to know what is going on before they enter as after.
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This was my thinking.

If someone was casing my place out, I wanna have a description.

If someone was intent on doing me or a family member bodily harm, I want to put as much space as possible between them and their method of attack and my wife and children.
 
I get that all the time .... I have a half dozen hummingbirds that like to fight over the window feeder, and they are always running into the windows pushing against each other ..... They are hyped up on sugar ....
Ohio Rusty ><>
 
Woodpecker was whacking on the side of our house this morning right above the master bedroom window. I ran out with my fork and pancakes. :D

He is annoying.
 
I'd probably go with the bird theory myself, but let's think about it for a second...lets say it was a bad guy. What do you suppose his plan was by rapping on the window? I'd say dollars to donuts it would be to get you to come running outside.

When it comes to stuff like this, stay inside where you have all the advantages, and call 911. Let's say you get the cops out there, and they look around and don't find anything...they aren't going to write you an invoice or something. "We didn't find anything" "Wow, what a load off my mind. You guys are the best" That's all that happens.

I'll tell you a true story. I used to listen to the scanner quite a bit back in the early 80's. I heard some cops dispatched to a call at an older single womans house, where she claimed a man had been trying to kick her door in at about 3:00 AM. You could just hear the "Yeah, right" in the dispatcher and cops voices. The cops (wisely) got a few extra cars out there, and searched the perimeter of this womans house, only to find bootprints all over her front ddor, and the same boot prints in the dirt in her yard- it was exactly what she thought it was. You could hear the mood change on the cops as they widened the search to the surrounding neighborhood. I found it pretty chilling. What was he after? Should she have opened the door to see who it was?

Stay inside. Call 911. Don't search or clear solo.
 
Settling wood frames can make sharp knocking noises as well. When I'd lived in Vermont, a house that I'd rented used to make noises that sounded exactly like someone banging a door or window frame - and the noises tended to come in succession, like someone knocking. I'm not saying that this is what it was, just that it's another potential source of knocking sounds.
 
I only shot one woodpecker in my whole life... It was the one that would thump a hollow aluminum flag pole like he was gonna get a goodie out of it... Trouble was I was young guy and liked to stay out late partying and he liked to wake up at the crack of noon and wake my aching head up mad... Sounded like a malfunctioning full auto something or other... He also would hit the metal flashing on the neighbors house... I think he did it just to annoy me... :D
Brent
 
You go out and draw on someone committing simple trespass and you're in deep kimchee in most states.

Unless you're not telling something, you're not trained to advance and confront.

Advancing will work against you in most courts.

If you were disturbed enough to take your weapon with you (holstered or not) why didn't you call the cops?

Arm yourself, stay inside, seek cover and call the cops. Stay on the phone with them until they arrive. Let THEM search the grounds.

If someone actually tries to enter your house, THEN you're probably justified in pulling the trigger.
 
To go out armed is not the same as drawing on a simple trespasser. But if the simple trespasser does anything but leave he is getting closer to being much more than a trespasser. That is how I see it. I do not call 911 too often and likely reserve the call to something I cannot handle myself.
Brent
 
I am going to have to say reserving 911 calls to things that you "cannot handle" might be a little extreme. I would say that reserving the right to call for things that "would be smart to let a professional handle" would be better put. This is because it is their job as public servants...protect and serve...this being a situation that is not putting you in imminent danger. Not trying to play semantics, simply clarifying.
 
so having a gun means you just brandished a deadly weapon which is a felony in all 50 states.
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unless there's some federal law I'm not aware of, that is not necessesarily the case here. Virginia law states:

"It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured. However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable or justifiable self-defense."

Simply having a gun is not brandishing here. You must be doing something with it that induces fear in other people. And even then, it doesn't apply to self defense situations.
 
My first thought is a woodpecker or other bird. There are a lot of species that will sit and peck at their reflections in windows or car mirrors. They see their reflection as another bird in their territory.
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Try having a recently acquired stalker, a pregnant wife and a handful of birds living in the trees around your home who like to engage in this behavior.
 
When you go outside and you are armed, you better be cool and focused.

Better to get a pet cat to take care of those birds.
 
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