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- Thread starter Doc Holliday 1950
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Some of you guys get so hung up on semantics and nit picking. OP was pretty clear in his question IMHO. Give the guy a break!! Geez! Try some fiber. 
Myself? I prefer a mid size or large frame revolver (.38/.357, .44, .45), tucked in an IWB holster. Loose shirt over it when its warm, long vest or coat in cold weather. Speed strip or two in a pocket. Why? I trust six shooters more than automatic pistols. And, I just shoot them better. I just do. I was brought up on them in the 70's / 80's, hence my preference today.
Myself? I prefer a mid size or large frame revolver (.38/.357, .44, .45), tucked in an IWB holster. Loose shirt over it when its warm, long vest or coat in cold weather. Speed strip or two in a pocket. Why? I trust six shooters more than automatic pistols. And, I just shoot them better. I just do. I was brought up on them in the 70's / 80's, hence my preference today.
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Doc Holliday 1950
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I live in Fl. where you must carry, if you want to carry, concealed & I totally agree that if my state says I can carry openly or concealed, I will always carry concealed. I moved to Fl from Tn. where you could carry open or concealed.I always carried concealed.
It's seems to me that it's stupid to carry openly. This draws attention to oneself & very likely you will be confronted & forced to action which you might be arrested or have your weapon confiscated by the Police until your trial.
My interest is what one carry's concealed when out & about. If possible my third choice which is actually my really preferred choice is my Glock 19 or my Colt Python 4". These are what I shoot the best. But it's kind of difficult to carry ITW wearing shorts. I'd Have to wear long pants to carry either one which is ok by me but if one knows what to look for it's pretty obvious.
It's seems to me that it's stupid to carry openly. This draws attention to oneself & very likely you will be confronted & forced to action which you might be arrested or have your weapon confiscated by the Police until your trial.
My interest is what one carry's concealed when out & about. If possible my third choice which is actually my really preferred choice is my Glock 19 or my Colt Python 4". These are what I shoot the best. But it's kind of difficult to carry ITW wearing shorts. I'd Have to wear long pants to carry either one which is ok by me but if one knows what to look for it's pretty obvious.
Doc, I was just in Florida at Xmass, and wearing shorts and a gun the entire visit. I carried an 4.75" Uberti El Patron .45 LC, IWB (old Safarland 1911 holster), no problem. Cargo shorts with a belt, untucked shirt. 2 of my 15 days down there, again wearing shorts, belt and a loose shirt, I even carried a 7.5" Ruger Vaquero .45 LC, tucked in my belt, "Mexican carry" between 3-4 o'clock... no problem. The long barrel kept it where it needed to be. A proper thick, sturdy belt is a must. Beer belly also helps to hide the bulge! 
I believe it was Ayoob who wrote something to the effect that the gun "wasn't supposed to be comfortable, but COMFORTING".
I believe it was Ayoob who wrote something to the effect that the gun "wasn't supposed to be comfortable, but COMFORTING".
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S/Pete.
If EVERYONE is required to carry, then what’s the point of concealing it?
The OP says "You live in a state where you must carry concealed." In other words, you MUST carry, it's the law.
That's not the same as "If you carry, it must be concealed".
If I were to reach in to my gun safe, I’d pick my .38 3” LCRX and some wadcutters over a stout load of 231 because it’s light weight and accurate. It’s easier to conceal than a Ruger Blackhawk 5.5” custom in .44 magnum- but with the bigger gun I am safe from bears. City Bears, hopped up on goofballs and wacky tobackky! I feel a small revolver is more reliable than a very small semi auto because no one ever said “your fail to cycle problem is from improper grip on your revolver.”
If one of you is going to give me anything under a thousand dollars, gimme a CZ P10c as it’s said to be very accurate and have a decent trigger. It’s about Glock 19 sized so it has enough sight radius to actually function as a field gun, although the lcrx doesn’t litter brass.
If you are giving me my dream, it would be a Freedom Arms Model 97 Premier in .327 with a 32-20 optional cylinder, 5.5” barrel and if you run our of shots you can always show the bear the price tag and he’ll have a heart attack, but I have owned a FA and it was well worth the price- flawless.
Yes, I remember that silly conversation from the kids at Glock Smyrna!
"Weak wristing!" When they finally got the main Spring right? They wrapped up! The Glock 19 4th Gen is my carry pistol, thousands of flawless rounds down range since the right MS was delivered.
If EVERYONE is required to carry, then what’s the point of concealing it?
The OP says "You live in a state where you must carry concealed." In other words, you MUST carry, it's the law.
That's not the same as "If you carry, it must be concealed".
If I were to reach in to my gun safe, I’d pick my .38 3” LCRX and some wadcutters over a stout load of 231 because it’s light weight and accurate. It’s easier to conceal than a Ruger Blackhawk 5.5” custom in .44 magnum- but with the bigger gun I am safe from bears. City Bears, hopped up on goofballs and wacky tobackky! I feel a small revolver is more reliable than a very small semi auto because no one ever said “your fail to cycle problem is from improper grip on your revolver.”
If one of you is going to give me anything under a thousand dollars, gimme a CZ P10c as it’s said to be very accurate and have a decent trigger. It’s about Glock 19 sized so it has enough sight radius to actually function as a field gun, although the lcrx doesn’t litter brass.
If you are giving me my dream, it would be a Freedom Arms Model 97 Premier in .327 with a 32-20 optional cylinder, 5.5” barrel and if you run our of shots you can always show the bear the price tag and he’ll have a heart attack, but I have owned a FA and it was well worth the price- flawless.
Yes, I remember that silly conversation from the kids at Glock Smyrna!
"Weak wristing!" When they finally got the main Spring right? They wrapped up! The Glock 19 4th Gen is my carry pistol, thousands of flawless rounds down range since the right MS was delivered.
armoredman
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Same as always, hot or cold, CZ P-10C.
"Yes, I remember that silly conversation from the kids at Glock Smyrna!
"Weak wristing!" When they finally got the main Spring right? They wrapped up!" (BRIT)
Britt, can you clarify... are you insinuating that "weak wristing"(or more commonly known in the USA as Limp wristing), is not a real phenomenon with Glocks (or other semiautomatic pistols) and that the springs are at fault??
As far as the OP saying "must carry", I didn't read that as it was a mandatory legal requirement that everyone HAS to carry, but more as a common sense decision based upon the crime rate in that State. Similar to in Maine or other northern states during winter months, drivers MUST carry extra warm clothing, blankets, cell phone, food, etc. in their car in case they break down. It's not the LAW, but just good common sense.
That's how I read the OP's post, as a common sense assumption, not literally. I may be wrong.
"Weak wristing!" When they finally got the main Spring right? They wrapped up!" (BRIT)
Britt, can you clarify... are you insinuating that "weak wristing"(or more commonly known in the USA as Limp wristing), is not a real phenomenon with Glocks (or other semiautomatic pistols) and that the springs are at fault??
As far as the OP saying "must carry", I didn't read that as it was a mandatory legal requirement that everyone HAS to carry, but more as a common sense decision based upon the crime rate in that State. Similar to in Maine or other northern states during winter months, drivers MUST carry extra warm clothing, blankets, cell phone, food, etc. in their car in case they break down. It's not the LAW, but just good common sense.
That's how I read the OP's post, as a common sense assumption, not literally. I may be wrong.
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Aguila Blanca
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Semantics. They ARE the same, and I think most readers understood the question. That said, your way of constructing the sentence is less ambiguous.Brit said:
sureshot.
Yes, limp wristing is a real phenomenon, and by holding a powerful pistol weakly, that pistol could have an operator-induced malfunction.
In my case, and a good friends case, no chance! We both had grips that could crush apples, just joking!
It just so happened that when the new encapsulated mainspring was being introduced IE the Gen 4 model 19. A few new mainsprings were sent as replacements, until the magic formula was found, in fact, that one is still in my carry pistol, works flawlessly! I never had a similar problem with any of my Glocks that had a single mainspring.
Glock showed unusual restraint in the introduction of their .22 LR pistol, the Glock 44, it took 3 years to bring it to market! Having a huge technological breakthrough in the construction of the slide, part polymer, part steel.
Which vastly increases the speed of the movement of the slide. As the .22 LR is not that powerful. As is the worldwide favourite the 9mm parabellum.
My Buddy has one the G44, I have handled it, tore it apart, but not fired it. A very clever piece of equipment.
Yes, limp wristing is a real phenomenon, and by holding a powerful pistol weakly, that pistol could have an operator-induced malfunction.
In my case, and a good friends case, no chance! We both had grips that could crush apples, just joking!
It just so happened that when the new encapsulated mainspring was being introduced IE the Gen 4 model 19. A few new mainsprings were sent as replacements, until the magic formula was found, in fact, that one is still in my carry pistol, works flawlessly! I never had a similar problem with any of my Glocks that had a single mainspring.
Glock showed unusual restraint in the introduction of their .22 LR pistol, the Glock 44, it took 3 years to bring it to market! Having a huge technological breakthrough in the construction of the slide, part polymer, part steel.
Which vastly increases the speed of the movement of the slide. As the .22 LR is not that powerful. As is the worldwide favourite the 9mm parabellum.
My Buddy has one the G44, I have handled it, tore it apart, but not fired it. A very clever piece of equipment.
Doc Holliday 1950
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I think that some of the Forum does not know how to read. On my response # 23 I state
"I live in Fl. where you must carry, if you want to carry," The last 5 words says it all.
This means in order for you to carry your weapon is MUST BE CONCEALED in Florida. It does not mean that you have to carry, just if you want to. I appreciate all of the responses to those who carry their weapon concealed & what kind or revolver or semi do they carry. This is a very simple question guys & ladies.
"I live in Fl. where you must carry, if you want to carry," The last 5 words says it all.
This means in order for you to carry your weapon is MUST BE CONCEALED in Florida. It does not mean that you have to carry, just if you want to. I appreciate all of the responses to those who carry their weapon concealed & what kind or revolver or semi do they carry. This is a very simple question guys & ladies.
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Aguila Blanca
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The Firing Line is a firearms and civil rights forum, not a grammar forum. Let's try to get back to the topic of discussion, please:
And what we carry and why changes. Not daily, but change it does. Way back when, for instance, Glock introduced a novel new construction into carry pistols.
Steel and aluminium frames became plastic (Polymer if you will) vastly reducing the weight that hung on your hip.
And guess what, they work well. The vastling back and forth in my recent life, Glock 43X and Glock 19 Gen 4 seems to have settled in. 15 plus one won out. I do not work anymore (But we do seem to have lots to do, my wife and I of 28 years) and carting the G19 around seems to fit our lifestyle just fine.
Happy Monday to one and all.
Steel and aluminium frames became plastic (Polymer if you will) vastly reducing the weight that hung on your hip.
And guess what, they work well. The vastling back and forth in my recent life, Glock 43X and Glock 19 Gen 4 seems to have settled in. 15 plus one won out. I do not work anymore (But we do seem to have lots to do, my wife and I of 28 years) and carting the G19 around seems to fit our lifestyle just fine.
Happy Monday to one and all.
Update! Urban Carry has shipped the OTB leather with inner shell in Kydex, holster. For my 43X. This I think is going to be a breakthrough. And as I now have a steel 15 round magazine, that will give me 16 rounds ready to go, as with my G19. That will be new my carry pistol, and with a 19 round extended spare, the extra bulk is straight up, not outwards. Good to go.
All I have to do now is go out to the range. And test this gear. The extra 5 rounds will add a little weight, but not enough to matter I don't think. The holster has two slots and made for my favourite carry place, the right rear 3-30pm-ish. With not too drastic a cant.
When I went back to the G19 it was purely because of the round count. Fixed.
All I have to do now is go out to the range. And test this gear. The extra 5 rounds will add a little weight, but not enough to matter I don't think. The holster has two slots and made for my favourite carry place, the right rear 3-30pm-ish. With not too drastic a cant.
When I went back to the G19 it was purely because of the round count. Fixed.
I live in Wyoming and we are a "Constitutional Carry State". (It is good we have such a written law, but very sad and tragic that the socialists have made such inroads into destroying the Bill of Rights that we are now being forced to write laws to make the law the law. Open treason is the policy that most places embrace as law today)
Anyway.......It quite common to see open carry hear. But I still conceal when I go to the bigger towns and cities just because if you need a gun it's best for the enemy to now know you have it until it's in action.
Anyway, here in the colder times of year I have no problem at all carrying my large frame S&W 357s, 44s and 45. Most of these N-Frame S&Ws have 6 or 6.5" barrels too. Autos conceal easier, but not much easier if I wear a coat.
For summer I have a pocket gun which is a Ruger LCP in 380 and also a Kahr PM in 45 as well as a S&W 636 in 357 with a 2" barrel. In summer I only conceal when going to the big towns and cities but mostly I simply open carry. Living out in the country, no one cares (or even knows) most of the time.
If for some reason I was forced to always conceal in the warm weather I would probably go out and buy a small 9mm or maybe a 40 just for that purpose. I'd lean towards a S&W M&P or small Glock in all likelihood. But I still live in Real America, so I don't have to make that kind of choice, so far at least.
Anyway.......It quite common to see open carry hear. But I still conceal when I go to the bigger towns and cities just because if you need a gun it's best for the enemy to now know you have it until it's in action.
Anyway, here in the colder times of year I have no problem at all carrying my large frame S&W 357s, 44s and 45. Most of these N-Frame S&Ws have 6 or 6.5" barrels too. Autos conceal easier, but not much easier if I wear a coat.
For summer I have a pocket gun which is a Ruger LCP in 380 and also a Kahr PM in 45 as well as a S&W 636 in 357 with a 2" barrel. In summer I only conceal when going to the big towns and cities but mostly I simply open carry. Living out in the country, no one cares (or even knows) most of the time.
If for some reason I was forced to always conceal in the warm weather I would probably go out and buy a small 9mm or maybe a 40 just for that purpose. I'd lean towards a S&W M&P or small Glock in all likelihood. But I still live in Real America, so I don't have to make that kind of choice, so far at least.
I live in Tx and now we have open carry if you have a CC license. When the open carry law went in to effect I saw about 3 people who open carried. I haven't seen an open carry in over a year now. I am sure some still do it but even being pro gun I thought it sort of looked stupid like you were saying "look at me I have a gun". Big deal.
If I'm going to carry it will be concealed. I don't want or need anyone to know what I'm doing. Thats my business.
And yes the title of the thread and the content of the OPs post doesn't make a lot of sense. I understood what he was asking about having to carry concealed but don't know where the under 25' rule comes in.
If I'm going to carry it will be concealed. I don't want or need anyone to know what I'm doing. Thats my business.
And yes the title of the thread and the content of the OPs post doesn't make a lot of sense. I understood what he was asking about having to carry concealed but don't know where the under 25' rule comes in.
stinkeypete
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For those criticizing my assessment that grammar matters, consider how we feel about people who use "clip" instead of "Magazine", "Cylinder" instead of "Chamber", "assault rifle" with "semi automatic rifle", "AK" with "AR-15", "Pistol" vs. "Handgun" vs. "Revolver", "Suppressor" vs. "silencer".... on and on.
Words matter.
As for open carry.... REALLY? I open carried about every other day, October, November, December, January because Hunting Season! How the heck do you guys go hunting if you can't open carry???
Words matter.
As for open carry.... REALLY? I open carried about every other day, October, November, December, January because Hunting Season! How the heck do you guys go hunting if you can't open carry???