U.S. Marshall loses her gun & badge

Evading the point

"Only in Massachusetts would you find a law like that."

Are you sure it's only Massachusetts? I suspect there are other states with similar statutes, probably New Jersey, California and Maryland; possibly New York and Connecticut as well.

"I wonder if a locked glove box would meet the requirement?"

Highly unlikely, as it's w/i reach of anyone in the front seats. It's also a stupid place to keep a gun, authorization of that location by certain Southern states notwithstanding.

"...since she (the marshall) wasn’t in Massachusetts at the time of this occurrence and Florida law doesn’t have any requirements like that, she shouldn’t be held accountable to Massachusetts’s idiotic laws."

Irrelevant and specious. You asked if there were any such storage laws; I proved there were. Whether those laws applied to her was not the issue.

"...since she didn’t do anything that would cause a “joe on the street” to face jail time, fine or other punishment, she shouldn’t either."


Tenuous premise to rationalize a poor conclusion. Leaving a loaded gun and ID in a vehicle is not intelligent; it is questionable if the vehicle was even secured, still less that her department-issued property was in the trunk.

If she - or anyone else - was so irresponsible as to leave a loaded gun in sight in an unlocked car, I can easily see civil, and even criminal, consequences.

It's called "negligence." See also "reckless disregard." :rolleyes:
 
Why is the assumption being made that the firearm was in clear view from outside the car? Either I missed an important development of the story, or there are some large assumptions being made without any basis.
 
It's also a stupid place (locked glove box) to keep a gun, authorization of that location by certain Southern states notwithstanding.
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Why is that? I have kept guns hanging from a gun rack in my truck, in open map pockets on the door, in both locked and unlocked glove boxes, as well as center consoles. Not a dad-gum thing wrong with leaving a gun in your car, if you want it there. You could make a good argument for keeping it out of sight, but beyond that, I don’t see anything wrong with keeping one in a car. Notice that I am not trying to say you should, just that it is a perfectly legitimate place to want to have a gun.

Irrelevant and specious. You asked if there were any such storage laws; I proved there were. Whether those laws applied to her was not the issue.
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No, I didn’t ask anything. I said I didn’t think there was a law on the books anywhere that would cause a “joe on the street” to face jail time or a fine for the theft of their gun. I was wrong, in that regard, but correct in my overall point: Any “joe on the street” in her shoes, would not face jail time or a fine for doing what she did (given the information we have). Therefore, she shouldn’t either.

Tenuous premise to rationalize a poor conclusion. Leaving a loaded gun and ID in a vehicle is not intelligent; it is questionable if the vehicle was even secured, still less that her department-issued property was in the trunk.
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The vast majority of cars on the road today lock themselves when turned off and the doors are shut. I’d say the odds are high that her car was at least locked and that the gun was stored in a manner that complied with Florida’s fairly lenient laws regarding leaving a gun in a car. Of course I don’t know if it was laying in the open or not, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that wasn’t.
 
Why is the assumption being made that the firearm was in clear view from outside the car? Either I missed an important development of the story, or there are some large assumptions being made without any basis.
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There are some large assumptions made with bias. :D
 
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