U.S. Marshall loses her gun & badge

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progunner1957

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This has got to be the pinnacle of stupidity as perpetrated by law enforcement presonnel:


U.S. Marshall's badge & gun stolen in Central Florida
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"A badge, weapon and some ammunition were stolen from a U.S. Marshal's sport utility vehicle in Central Florida, according to FLORIDA TODAY news partner WKMG Local 6 News."

"Katrina Crouse noticed Monday that her equipment was missing, a Seminole County Sheriff's report showed. " ...

"Investigators are concerned that the woman's belongings may fall into dangerous hands."

You think?? So exactly what are We The People supposed to do when someone claiming to be a U.S. Marshall sticks a badge in our face and starts issuing orders?? Just comply and pray to God that they really are a U.S. Marshall and not some thug who made off with a badge from some obviously incopetent stooge who shouldn't have it in the first place?

Fire her, I say!!
 
> This has got to be the pinnacle of stupidity as perpetrated by law enforcement presonnel:

It's not good, but I'd say the pinnacle was reached a while ago when one left his gun in the bathroom. Although the AR lying in the road story was pretty good too. (Sure am glad I'm perfect! :p )
 
Slackers!

All the above buffoons pale to insignificance compared to the FBI agents who lost an entire SUV and the weapons therein - because they left it running while they got coffee. :eek:

Did I mention that they were in DC, helping "secure" the area for Bush's second inauguration? Yeah, welding manhole covers is REALLY important compared to not getting your vehicle and weapons stolen...... :barf:
 
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And the anti-gun folks continue to scream...
There is no reason for anyone other than Law Enforcement officers to have firearms!! Average citizens aren't properly trained to be responsible with a deadly weapon!
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And then there's this:


Cop Drops Gun in Bathroom, Bullets Fly

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — This is a story they'll be telling around the San Antonio Police Department (search) for a long time.

A police spokesman says an off-duty officer was at an auto auction house in San Antonio Wednesday when nature called.

Officer Craig Clancy strolled to the appropriate facility and was lowering his trousers when his pistol fell from his waistband. When Clancy fumbled for the falling firearm, it went off — twice.

One of the bullets nicked a bit of floor tile into the leg of a man who was washing his hands nearby. That man was taken to an area hospital for treatment.

Police internal affairs is investigating.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154240,00.html
 
There is a rumour here in Australia that a Police Department here lost an entire pallet of Glocks because someone showed up with bodgy paperwork before the legit delivery. I have not been able to confirm it.
 
It's not good, but I'd say the pinnacle was reached a while ago when one left his gun in the bathroom. Although the AR lying in the road story was pretty good too. (Sure am glad I'm perfect! )
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I'm rather fond of the story about the FBI agent who left the MP5 on the deck lid and drove off with it sitting there.
 
Not long after the 10mm was issued to the FBI, an agent left his, his ID, and a couple hundred rounds of ammo in his gov't car while he went in to a hotel to register.

As far as I know, none of the items stolen were ever recovered.
 
I don't think she can be strung from the yardarm for this. It was locked up, and someone broke in and stole it. Guns are going to get stolen, no matter how careful people are. It is the law of averages, and not worthy of national news.

Any fool can buy, make or have made a silkscreened yellow on blue or black T-shirt or jacket that says "U.S. Marshal" or "[pick one]". Genuine or replica badges of all kinds are sold, traded etc nationwide.

The safety of citizens should be highlighted by minimizing the number of excuses for unannounced and sudden confrontation by less-than-fully-uniformed civil servants. While there are no guarantees, unhooded and fully-uniformed local police driving clearly marked and familiar locally used vehicles are the best way to avoid confusion.
 
Fire her, I say!!
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There are plenty of people on this forum who leave guns in cars, and even threads to discuss which type of gun is best to leave in their car for protection. What's the difference? Anyone can get a realistic or even real badge on ebay...
 
I agree, it definitely sucks, but it could happen to any one of us if we keep a piece in the car. What really sucks is there are places where I have to leave it in the car. I always kinda get the willies when I have to leave my gun out for awhile. Hopefully no heinous crimes will be perpetrated by some thug w/ that badge/gun combo... hopefully.
 
I wonder where she was going into that she didn't have her firearm and badge? IMO law enforcement (all citizens for that matter) shouldn't have to remove their firearm unless there is a place to lock it up (jails, prisons, etc)
 
I don't think the officer committed any great display of stupidity. Just bad luck. I have, and still do, carry weapons, equipment in my vehicle. You can't exactly stroll around with a ruck, grenade vest, rifle slung across your chest, etc. I've had my car stolen once, with my federal credentials and badge in the glovebox, never recovered them. They're bulky, it's summer, it's hot, and you're wearing shorts? It's easy enough for someone to buy a fake badge, print out some creds, and buy a raid shirt/jacket...so that's a moot point. It happens. Many officers can't wait to take off their gunbelts. Shift is over, they throw their belt and gun in the trunk, take off their shirts, and head home. What do you expect them to do? Things happen. I've found unsecured service weapons in the bathroom(guy left it hanging on the stall wall after taking care of business) found another in empty kitchen/break room (took it off to eat). None of the officers were aware of this, till I went looking for them. It happens. I once headed to work, got there and realized my holster was empty, left it on the bed as I was suiting up. Once got in a chase through the brush, caught the guys, then realized my sidearm was gone. That really got me wired! Quickly backtracked and found it. I thought I was up the creek on that one. Very lucky. So it happens..one day a big freaking rock is going to hit the Earth...it happens.
 
and yet, should a private citizen do the exact same thing.. there can be legal consequences to them. In some states, that can include forfieture of all ownership of firearms, fines and yes, even jail time.

why should an LEO be held to a lesser standard?
 
There was an incident around here (Claiborne County I think) where a school officer "lost" her gun. She wasn't sure if it was lost/stolen in the middle school or high school she had been working at that day.

They locked both schools down, started rifling through lockers and searched some students.

This was FRONT PAGE of all local papers, FIRST STORY on the nightly news and when it came out that she had placed the gun on top of a cabinet when she *ahem* weighed herself and forgot to retrieve it. They found it a few days later, and the story wasn't mentioned on the nightly news and was BURIED in the paper.

Yep. Truth is strange.
 
K_dawg,

I don’t think law enforcement should ever be held to a lesser standard, in fact it should be (and often is) a higher standard. However, what in the world are you referring to when you say,
and yet, should a private citizen do the exact same thing.. there can be legal consequences to them. In some states, that can include forfieture of all ownership of firearms, fines and yes, even jail time.
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? Are you really trying to say that if a private citizen had a gun (or anything) stolen from them they would face fines, gun rights and even jail time?! Surely you didn’t mean that…
 
As it pertains to the loss of a firearm, I would assume that the officer will face some type disciplinary action (as it was, technically, not secured according to policies of that particular agency, I assume). Haven't my handbook anymore, but I guess that it could technically be grounds for dismissal. I'm just saying that it's not something that will be overlooked by her supervisors or sector/regional commanders. I don't know of any civilian facing charges for having their firearms stolen. I don't think I've ever heard of it. I have heard of people being charged after their kids shoot themselves or others with their parents guns. I personally don't agree with that, the parents didn't give it to them, etc..just stupid kids. I never understood why LEO's are expected to adhere to some utopian ideal of "higher standards". It's just a job. Same people that are your neighbors, brothers, sisters, etc. I'm quite sure that agent is not laughing about the loss of her sidearm..a very serious matter, just not reflective of being "innately stupid" as some have posted. If she was drunk in a bar and left the gun as a tip...now that would be stupid.
 
I never understood why LEO's are expected to adhere to some utopian ideal of "higher standards". It's just a job. Same people that are your neighbors, brothers, sisters, etc.
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Blasphemer!!!! It's a CALLING!!! Like being a priest or a missionary in the Congo or something...Not just a job!!!
 
Stupidity for sure.

I think what was ment by "LEO's need to be held to the same standard" was that in some states(like here) you can't leave a loaded gun in the car at all, and if its in teh car, it can only be there if you are a CCW holder and its on your person.
 
I think what was ment by "LEO's need to be held to the same standard" was that in some states(like here) you can't leave a loaded gun in the car at all, and if its in teh car, it can only be there if you are a CCW holder and its on your person.
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How do we know she left a loaded gun in the car?
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