Tyranny Response team rises to counter Million Mom March

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Response team rises to counter Million Mom March

by Myra Mensh Patner
Staff Writer

Nov. 29, 2000

A new group of pro-gun activists has organized to
counter the demonstrations by the local chapter of the
Million Mom March opposing gun shows at the
Montgomery County fairgrounds.

Calling themselves the Maryland Tyranny Response
Team, the activists first marched on Oct. 21 at the
Montgomery County Agricultural Center and
Fairgrounds in Gaithersburg, confronting the anti-gun
show demonstration by the Million Mom chapter.

The five-man Tyranny Response Team, accompanied
by about 50 sympathizers, exchanged angry words with
the 30 Million Mom March members. Soon after, the
women disbanded.

Michael Koller of Germantown, who organized the
Maryland Tyranny Response Team, said his group had
routed the anti-gun show demonstration. The Maryland
group is part of a National Tyranny Response Team,
headquartered in Colorado.

"Just our presence elicited a call to 911," he said.

Brian Strauss of Germantown, a team member, said:
"We took control of the sidewalk. They were very
demoralized. Within 45 minutes, the Million Mom March
packed up their wagons and left."

But Tierney O'Neil of Chevy Chase, who in October organized the local Million Mom
March chapter and led the demonstration, said her group arranged before the
demonstration to leave if requested by fairgrounds attorney James Clifford.

Clifford confirmed that account. "I was alarmed for the women's safety," he said.
"People were getting riled up on both sides."

A week after the fairgrounds encounter, the Tyranny Response Team showed up
outside a local synagogue when the Million Mom March chapter met.

O'Neil said her group plans to demonstrate against the next fairgrounds gun show at
the county fairgrounds Jan. 6.

"It's kind of embarrassing that a group of men are proud of the fact that they have
bullied a bunch of women," O'Neil said. "They feel like they pushed us around. Does
that make them feel they have cemented their constitutional rights?"

Bob Glass, owner of Paladin Arms gun shop in Longmont, Colo., said he helped
found the National Tyranny Response Team to protect the constitutional right to bear
arms.

Glass said Americans need to be able to own firearms to protect themselves from
the tyranny of the federal government or any other group. "The stated goal is to
restore lost freedom and preserve what freedom is left," Glass said.

Glass said he created his group a year ago to counter a wave of gun control
legislation proposed after the shootings at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo.

Glass said the Tyranny Response Team's focus shifted almost exclusively to the
Million Mom March once the march became a national entity, based in San Francisco.

A New Jersey woman, Donna Dees-Thomases, organized the march after the August
1999 shooting of six people at North Valley Jewish Community Center in Granada,
Hills, Calif.

About 800,000 people took part in the initial Million Mom March demonstration
against guns at the National Mall last Mother's Day.

Glass said his group has 22 chapters across the United States to publicly oppose
Million Mom March groups whenever they take action.

"Every time they ever do anything, we'll be in their face," Glass said. "Anything they do,
anything, we'll be in their face."

Glass said his group is becoming frustrated with peaceful protest.

"Ultimately, we will resort to violence. The whole reason for TRT is to win this without
violence," Glass said. "They're pushing gun owners into violence. They don't
understand."

But Michael Koller, the Maryland Tyranny Response Team leader, said his group,
which numbers about eight men who can attract dozens more people for
demonstrations, would not have hurt the Million Mom March women.

"They are their own worst enemy," Koller said. "They have false stereotypes. They get
scared and they abandon. We wouldn't have done anything to them."

http://www.gazette.net/200048/bethesda/news/34554-1.html
 
Suggestion: If someone insinuates that you're threatening, etc., become highly outraged. Stress that it's your right to be there, jadda, jadda, and that you're a nonviolent person - Just because you feel that there is a need for people to be able to defend themselves, etc., does not mean that you're a "dangerous" person.

Violence scares most "normal" people. Which means that most "normal" people, upon reading this, likely felt that that buncha gun nuts oughta have their guns taken away...

Let's not give the other side any ammo.
 
Aaaaack!

If Donna Dees Thomases is just a woman from New Jeersey, then I must be Santa Claus!

How come the media still portrays this nationally known Public Relations person, who has been both Dan Rather's and David Letterman's personal publicist, and who also has close personal ties to the Clintons, as a 'typical suburban soccer mom' that organized a major national media circus - The MMM rally on Mother's Day - in just a few months after the day care shooting. Yeah, right.
 
There is also that 800,000 number again.. proven to be over counted by at least 10 times.... A very bias article.
 
Glass said his group is becoming frustrated with peaceful protest.

"Ultimately, we will resort to violence. The whole reason for TRT is to win this without violence," Glass said. "They're pushing gun owners into violence. They don't understand."
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If Glass truly said this, I assume and hope it was in a moment of frustration. This is a foolish impression to give - I agree ... it simply gives the other side ammunition.

Regards from AZ
 
Screw What They Think!

I have reached the point where I fully support Bob Glass' comments. It is time that the enemies of freedom realize that gunowners - indeed freedom loving folk of all kinds - are peaceful at heart, but that when pushed too far, there will be consequences. Merely passing laws will NOT deny our rights and ultimately, we will fight to preserve them.
 
I have heard this same scenario with the TRT all over the country - the commie mommies back off in the TRT's presence.

Hmm, me thinks we have found a very simple and effective strategy to shut up the mommies. What we need now is more TRT chapters and more members at the "protests".

CMOS
 
"It's kind of embarrassing that a group of men are proud of the fact that they have bullied a bunch of women," O'Neil said. "They feel like they pushed us around. Does
that make them feel they have cemented their constitutional rights?"

I wonder if O'Neil considers herself a feminist. If so, she's a poor one, hiding behind her sex like that.

However, comments like this are all the more reason for women like me to go hold signs for the TRT whenever possible. And I hope that lots my sisters in arms will join in.

pax

Mourn not the dead that in the cool earth lie,
but rather mourn the apathetic throng
the coward and the meek
who see the world's great anguish and its wrong,
and dare not speak.
-- Ralph Chaplin
 
I for one will be marking Jan. 6th on my calendar... I live just across the river from The People's Democratic Republik of Maryland, perhaps it's time for an excursion into occupied territory, give those Million Mom Farcer's whatfor. "Boohoohoo, they were mean to us, picking on us poor, defenseless mothers." Give it a rest. They're trying to strip us of our rights, and they have the cajones to complain that people object to this and stand up to them. They can go piss up a rope as far as I'm concerned.

And you're absolutely right, bookkie... the media keeps bandying about that completely bogus 800,000 figure. I live in Northern VA, and the Million Mom Farce was plastered all over the local news. 800,000 bleating Soccer Moms would have filled the mall solid from end to end, and then some. Less than a quarter of the mall was occupied, and even then not to a great density. Generous estimates placed the total around 80,000. The actual number was probably around 45,000 to 55,000. They can take the 800,000 figure and show it sideways.
 
800,000 NO WAY!! Max was 45,000 and I am being generous. When I walked by there were 25,000 - 30,000. Cougar can verify that, he was there too.
 
Bob is right, at some point we will have to stop "playing nice". I have protested the MMM, they back down when there is superior numbers, which is not always the case. They have the upper hand with superior funding, the support of our current "king" and his administration and the press. The protest I attended we were outnumbered, the press spent a considerable time trying to pin a name on who organized our 40 protesters. The reality was at least 4 different groups comming together. We got about 7 seconds of sound bites, they got a hell of a lot more. The key is prep and getting large numbers there. Frankly I think we're wasting our time. Find your legiscritter, call and make an appointment. Then talk to them about your concerns. That may have more effect. Pax hit it on the head, the new and improved woman uses any level to justify actions because they don't know what they want. "I'm a strong woman watch me protest to big mean neadrathal men.... They sort of forgot the sisters were there. Big, mean neandrathal women..... I love em!
 
what do y'all think?

Subject: The current threat to Silverado Gun Shows

Several people have forwarded to me some messages from you regarding Silverado's
upcoming show at the Montgomery County Fairgrounds.

I admire your zeal, your dedication to the cause, and your willingness to get out
and get in the faces of those that would have Silverado cease it's shows at the Fairgrounds.
I feel, however that I should let you know how a repeat of the counter protest would
affect the overall picture.

Based upon conversations I have had with Fair board members, it has become clear
that, should counter-protests (like those at the October, 2000 show) occur at
the January 2001 show, it will be the last gun show ever for the fair grounds in
Montgomery County, no matter who tries to put on the show.

Fair or unfair, these are the facts.

Before the October 2000 show, Silverado Shows, which had been using this site
for 10 years, had the _unanimous_ support of the board of directors of the
fairgrounds.

I had successfully shown the board that the MMM protesters are comparable to the
fanatics from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), a group
with which the Fair's board has had experience already.

I had shown the Fair board that the MMM protesters were just another fringe
group of extremists, seeking media attention at the expense of law-abiding
businesses.

Now, although the entire board is not yet against gun shows, the momentum is
thoroughly with those who are at work to find ways to have gun shows
discontinued at the fairgrounds.

This change is not due to any fault found with how Silverado! Shows has been
operating. It is due entirely to negative publicity for the fair grounds - in
the board's opinion, which is the opinion that matters - negative publicity that
is, and will be, in direct proportion to _any_ confrontation that occurs.

Should there be a repeat of anything resembling the events of October 2000, gun
shows at the Gaithersburg fair grounds will be finished. History.

Because of the biased journalism of the Gazette (bias on the part of both a
certain reporter, and on the part of editors who refuse to exercise diligent and
professional control) gun shows at the fair grounds are now linked with an
event that, in the words of the board's attorney and the board's executive
director, "Made that little girl cry."

Is it accurate or fair? No. It is the real world.

No matter that the anti-rights woman who brought her child to the protest needs
her head examined.

No matter that the police officer from Vice & Intelligence, who monitored the
demonstration, said it rated a 2 on a scale of 10.

It's not fair, it's just the facts.

Even though it is unfair, the counter-protests have burned an indelible
impression on the people who have the absolute say over whether gun shows may
continue at the fair grounds: The executive director of the fairgrounds said to
me that the counter-protesters acted like stereotypical, loud-mouthed redneck
gun-owners, just as the media always portrays us.

Is that accurate or fair? I know it isn't, and so do you. It's just her
impression. But she can make or break the future of gun shows at the fair
grounds.

The lawyer for the fairgrounds, who was squarely on our side before he rode down
to that end of the grounds to look at things for himself, now would prefer to
get rid of gun shows.

No, it's not fair. It's just another fact.

Putting on gun shows is my livelihood, totally. It is the way I have found, for
paying for the food on the table, and the roof over my family's head.

A repeat of the events of October, 2000 will seal the fate of gun shows at th! e
fair grounds. Confrontations at a gun show at the fair grounds will destroy my
livelihood. And will seriously hurt all those who could otherwise do business
at a gun show - no matter who it's run by - at the fair grounds.

There is no other venue like this in the county. Therefore, it will put an end
to Gun Shows in Montgomery County. Doug Duncan, the MMM, and any other anti-gun
entity you care to name, will have a victory.

The MMM is trying to eliminate gun shows in Maryland. So far, the MMM can be
clearly seen as an entity that cannot stand on its own. The MMM started as a
front for the DNC and for anti-gun activists with close ties to the Clintons and
the media elite. MMM received major funding from a billionaire foreign
financier, George Soros, who pays for social-engineering schemes in many
countries. MMM received continual boosts from biased news coverage.

And yet MMM still does not stand on its own. As most of you probably know, MMM
is now a "wholly-owned subsidiary" of the far-left political advocacy group, The
Bell Campaign.

MMM cannot get by without help. When protests by MMM members are transformed
into newsworthy items by confrontations, MMM gets what it wants.

MMM makes most of us furious. MMM is the perfect tool for sparking
confrontations. And confrontation will destroy the future permission of gun
shows to exist in Montgomery County.

This could develop into the only useful type of work the MMM shows itself able
to supply, for anti-gunners: the role of ensuring that gun-related venues, in
places that are totally vulnerable to the worries and impressions of a small
group (such as a board of directors), will indeed be placed in grave risk -
because the MMM shows itself to be uniquely capable of bringing out the "anger,
no matter what the cost to gun-owners" of gun-owners.

My shows have been a resource for gun-rights activism for a decade. From
providing free space to gun-rights grassroots workers, to "Join the NRA, Get
Into The Show For Free", to letting my show be broad! cast on C-SPAN to help stop
the mystery and stigma that the elite news media tries to throw at gun shows, I
have taken a stand in one of the most gun-unfriendly states in the USA.

Now my livelihood - and the future of gun shows, _any_ gun show, _whoever_ tries
to run it, in Montgomery County - is in the hands of a few nervous people. And
the anti-gun strategists would like to make them as nervous as possible, using
their newest stooge-group, the MMM. But the anti-gun strategists can't succeed
in this, unless they receive help from, of all people, us.

Please, don't help them.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Frank Krasner
Silverado Promotions
 
Bob Glass statement spun

To All:

Two contributions I'd like to add to this thread, and then I'll yield to other's comments.

I have been actively a part of the TRT-Colorado for the better part of the year. It's been an interesting ride; and one of the more amusing parts has been the media reaction.

Let's put Bob's quote in context, shall we?

He was speaking about ultimate circumstances for an entire people. This is the recognition that most folks here are seeing. If any official authority in this nation were ever to attempt the forcible disarming of the People...

...it will happen after all the ammunition is expended.

There are times when citizens need to speak bluntly - and the Tyranny Response Team serves a pragmatic method to do so both with visibility, and with the full exercise of another fundamental right - that of peaceable assembly.

The movement has grown so fast that all of us who work for freedom under that name, are finding themselves beseiged with work and attention. Since the first huge protest in Denver, there are now reportedly chapters in twenty-nine states. And these are not people with a transient desire to play at a new diversion... they are patriots willing to put themselves right where it happens - and make their convictions known.

A good start to the millenium - a majority of the States.

We are law-abiding citizens. Note the wording of the First Amendment. Peaceable assembly... not agreeable.

So our enemies hate us enough that the press considers that to be the proper focus of the story. This is, in fact, a good thing - because the fact that they fear us, means that we are effective with what we do.

We've been assaulted. I've had things thrown at me during protests. No big deal.

That resolve ought not to be taken as the last resort.

What are each of you willing to do in defense of your freedom? Many people are willing to state that they will pick up a rifle to defend the liberties of the Republic.

Others are willing to state their convictions in the streets. Time will tell whether that will be the road of victory in this war over the culture of the nation.

Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
- Theodore Roosevelt

I trust that spirit still lives in the national breast.

Best regards to all,

Robert Teesdale
robert@teesdale.com
http://www.teesdale.com
 
The MD TRT is weighing a counter protest January sixth...

what do y'all think?

The MMM will prolly have press there to record the children being assaulted by the mean men.

Maybe if we doon't show, the MMM will get on TV freezing thier kids for a non event.

I will bet the gunshow next October is toast no matter what happens...

Maybe the MD TRT ought to volunteer to assist the fairground in some project they need man power for...

dZ
 
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