Turn a Pocket Remmy into a toy?
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I CANNOT imagine that that 1911 is not a $4000 competition tackdriver. Trigger seems odd for a 1911 but the details on that thing man! Holding that thing in your backyard in a populated urban area is guaranteed to have SWAT team called on you.foolzrushn
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I gotta say, that at 5, my kids and grand kids loved playing with those wooden 'guns'. You have probably seen them...the ones that have a sliding action and 'pop' a plug out the barrel that is on a string. But the popping will drive you crazy (thats what they like...noise!).
They also really liked the ones that shoot ping pong balls or rubber bands. Nowdays I see more that shoot plastic bullets.
I really didn't want my kids to do what I did......because I did dangerous stupid things. (Like real BB gun fights without eye protection)
Even with cap guns, I would tell my kids " don't shoot your brother". Funny how we sort of let gun safety slide....then try to undo that later. I wanted my kids to have fun, but as parent, I had to keep asking myself if I was rushing them because that's what I wanted.
The roll cap guns I had as a kid weren't realistic enough to ever get a kid shot. And perhaps it should still be that way. Kids grow up too fast anyway.
They also really liked the ones that shoot ping pong balls or rubber bands. Nowdays I see more that shoot plastic bullets.
I really didn't want my kids to do what I did......because I did dangerous stupid things. (Like real BB gun fights without eye protection)
Even with cap guns, I would tell my kids " don't shoot your brother". Funny how we sort of let gun safety slide....then try to undo that later. I wanted my kids to have fun, but as parent, I had to keep asking myself if I was rushing them because that's what I wanted.
The roll cap guns I had as a kid weren't realistic enough to ever get a kid shot. And perhaps it should still be that way. Kids grow up too fast anyway.
Sure Shot Mc Gee
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Being a senior citizen. I'm not current with now-a-days marketed kids toys. Perhaps I should be do to the realistic looking plastic handguns now available.
Anything is feasible. Just takes a little imagination is all.
Not a bad idea
Now then, it might be a bit much for a 5-yr. old but then again, perhaps not. I know it would be something that he could grow into, in short time. If you looks at the video you will get a better idea of what I mean. This item would definitely need some adult supervision. ....
I have handled a number of these and incorporated them in presentation display cases for some organizations. The last one we did, was a 1875 Outlaw. They really look real but don't function well or are limited on what one can do other than hang on the wall .......
Be Safe !!!
This past weekend, I had the opportunity to handle and take a good look at this CO2 SA-Colt. It was very realistic and functional. My buddy bought one and he is going to set a target up in his house. .....
Now then, it might be a bit much for a 5-yr. old but then again, perhaps not. I know it would be something that he could grow into, in short time. If you looks at the video you will get a better idea of what I mean. This item would definitely need some adult supervision. ....
I have handled a number of these and incorporated them in presentation display cases for some organizations. The last one we did, was a 1875 Outlaw. They really look real but don't function well or are limited on what one can do other than hang on the wall .......
Be Safe !!!
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I've got an airsoft I paid IIRC 10 bucks for off Amazon. I got it to pop the neighbors dog with because he keep coming up here picking fights with mine. I cut the orange tip off because IMO it just looks stupid. I even put real 1911 grips on it and they bolted right on without any mods. Yeah even at arms length it would get you shot.
In light of today's views, I will have to be another nay-sayer to the idea of a too-realiistic toy. They put those orange muzzle caps on toys for a reason.
Hi, Swathdiver,
You wrote, "...law(s) in many states such as Florida, do not consider the cap and ball revolver a firearm... One can open carry, conceal carry and take them to school for example."
Maybe in Florida, but in every jurisdiction I know, the laws on carrying a gun do NOT exempt cap and ball revolvers (or other antiques or repros). Nor do laws on bringing guns into schools or other prohibited areas. And laws against armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, or attempted murder do not limit those crimes to guns using metallic cartridges. A C&B Remington might be legal to buy or own without many restrictions, but in other sections of the criminal code it is a deadly weapon, the same as a Glock.
Jim
Hi, Swathdiver,
You wrote, "...law(s) in many states such as Florida, do not consider the cap and ball revolver a firearm... One can open carry, conceal carry and take them to school for example."
Maybe in Florida, but in every jurisdiction I know, the laws on carrying a gun do NOT exempt cap and ball revolvers (or other antiques or repros). Nor do laws on bringing guns into schools or other prohibited areas. And laws against armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, or attempted murder do not limit those crimes to guns using metallic cartridges. A C&B Remington might be legal to buy or own without many restrictions, but in other sections of the criminal code it is a deadly weapon, the same as a Glock.
Jim
swathdiver
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Florida law on antique firearms mirrors Federal Law with the exception of ammunition.
In Federal and Florida for example, neither are deadly nor dangerous weapons or devices, they are specifically excluded from being such by definition. Check out Florida's Chapter 790 and Federal Title 18, Section 921.
An yes, I also stated previously, if one commits a crime with their '51 Navy or '61 Springfield Rifle, it by law is now classed as a firearm. A sign on a police station that says "all firearms" does not legally include antique firearms, they must use the term to include them.
However, one prosecutor somehow managed to convince a judge that the addition of a fiber optic sight converted the antique firearm into a firearm to jam up an ex-con wishing to lawfully hunt with one.
foolzrushn
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Another problem for a small child would be weight. It might be difficult to hold something with larger (for a kid) grips, that was heavy. Our old roll cap guns were pretty light (zinc?? always heard it called 'pot metal').
But if you think about it, there were other things that we learned with roll cap guns,even though they weren't authentic. We learned how to holster, and how it flapped around when you ran....unless you tied it to your leg gunslinger style.
We learned to reload another roll during a heated battle. And definately...how to clear jams from the part that pushes the caps up. Some of those things were not safety counter-productive. And while pointing it at other kids was, there were always plenty of imaginary bad guys, bears, alligators (anything with big teeth!). I remember shooting at the TV a lot helping the Lone Ranger and Tonto.
A good metal roll cap gun is harder to find these days, but it seems I saw something on the Nichols website about servicing their brand. I have seen roll caps at Wallyworld and some of the farm stores. I still have some of my old cap pistols. Probably should put 'em on Ebay.
But if you think about it, there were other things that we learned with roll cap guns,even though they weren't authentic. We learned how to holster, and how it flapped around when you ran....unless you tied it to your leg gunslinger style.
We learned to reload another roll during a heated battle. And definately...how to clear jams from the part that pushes the caps up. Some of those things were not safety counter-productive. And while pointing it at other kids was, there were always plenty of imaginary bad guys, bears, alligators (anything with big teeth!). I remember shooting at the TV a lot helping the Lone Ranger and Tonto.
A good metal roll cap gun is harder to find these days, but it seems I saw something on the Nichols website about servicing their brand. I have seen roll caps at Wallyworld and some of the farm stores. I still have some of my old cap pistols. Probably should put 'em on Ebay.
foolzrushn
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Just for grins....
here are a couple of my cap pistols from long ago. Too small for a 5yr old though. You can tell that these saw lots of caps from the grunge. They used the single round caps like the Nichols Dyna-Mite. The hole went all the way through the barrel. The Colt has a revolving cylinder, but the other one is just cast to look like a cylinder. And yeah, the holster is pretty sad, but I didn't know how to sew leather....and hey, I was a kid!
here are a couple of my cap pistols from long ago. Too small for a 5yr old though. You can tell that these saw lots of caps from the grunge. They used the single round caps like the Nichols Dyna-Mite. The hole went all the way through the barrel. The Colt has a revolving cylinder, but the other one is just cast to look like a cylinder. And yeah, the holster is pretty sad, but I didn't know how to sew leather....and hey, I was a kid!
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In most places, anything would be called a weapon by law enforcement if the object was used in the assault for the sole purpose of causing injury or death.
Just recently in NYC, a bar patron who beat another with the leg ripped from a bar stool was also charged with "criminal possession of a weapon" as well as the assault charge. No one would consider that stool leg a weapon until it was used as one, thus that additional charge.
So even if in places one can carry a cap and ball revolver openly, as soon as that cap and ball is used to intimidate or injure, the firearm charge will apply. And if it is a justified defensive shooting, it would be recorded in the files as a "shooting", just as would be if a modern firearm is used.
Just recently in NYC, a bar patron who beat another with the leg ripped from a bar stool was also charged with "criminal possession of a weapon" as well as the assault charge. No one would consider that stool leg a weapon until it was used as one, thus that additional charge.
So even if in places one can carry a cap and ball revolver openly, as soon as that cap and ball is used to intimidate or injure, the firearm charge will apply. And if it is a justified defensive shooting, it would be recorded in the files as a "shooting", just as would be if a modern firearm is used.