TSA saves us - Iraqi with "bomb" tries to board plane

I think this case may just turn into a he said she said thing "I said pump", "No he said bomb"
Was it a bomb or a penis pump? It was indeed a penis pump right? So now will he be let off the hook, or will he be punished for his words being misunderstood by a TSA employee? Would all this of mattered if he was white?
This all seems so dumb to me, but I guess its the world we live in today.
 
He can't put that in his checked luggage?
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Yup, probably.
Let's arrest him on felony charges for his lapse.

"Need" is such a wonderfully subjective word, used by every single despot wishing to legislate others' behavior. "Need" is the bar set by tyrants.

Why do you "need" those black rifles?
Why do you "need" magazines with 10 rounds and more?
Why do you "need" guns in the first place?


Awww, heck, it's too much info to process; let's just jail the guy. We can figure it all out in the morning...he'll keep. Good job team. :rolleyes:
Rich
 
OneInTheChamber, why do you assume that he has any checked bags? In the past 10 years, I've checked exactly *one* bag. Every other time I have to fly, I go with just my backpack.
 
Reminds me of the guy who was mentally unstable and was shot and killed by g-men when he wanted to get off of a plane on the tarmac, and forced his way back up the ramp. Several g-men heard him say "bomb", yet none of the many witnesses on the plane heard the word bomb - strange, that.

Also, if you haven't seen "Meet the Parents", when Greg starts saying "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb" on the plane, you must see it. Great scene; great movie.

Why can't TSA personnel simply look at and analyze the object in question, and determine whether it IS or IS NOT a weapon? Don't they have books like Jane's that show them that stuff like guns are weapons, and if it's not in there, it's not? Even if they are too stupid to realize that a penis pump is not a weapon, surely we can get some reference books in their hands.

Of course, this disorderly conduct charge will come down to whether a jury believes that he did or did not say bomb (twice, no less). So let's see, put yourself on the jury and in turn in his shoes. You want to get the penis pump on the plane to take it with you. You're not actually a terrorist WITH a bomb. You're with your mom, and want to keep her from knowing the true nature of your little helper device. Quick, think of something to call it to quickly make the TSA people shove it back in your checked bag so that you can move along and forget the embarrassing scene! Quick, what's a good thing to say to draw as little attention as possible! I've got it - say "BOMB!" - yeah, that's the ticket! Then they'll just say OK and move you right on through. C'mon really folks. The law enforcement workers here are clearly LIARS, and the jury will see it for what it is. What possible motive could he have had for saying "bomb"?

Maybe he said quietly "it's a pump". And the TSA gal said "really, does it work? This may help me and my husband". Darkskinned dude: "Oh, yeah it works - it's DA BOMB!"

Well said, Rich - as always. You're a man for all seasons...
 
WOW!! What happened to the first amendment?
I know the Supreme Court has limited it in situations like yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre, etc. but, was a panic started by saying 'bomb', or, 'the bomb'?

Did the crowd go crazy, quiver in fear, and stampede for the door?

I'm beggining to think we need Muslims around, just to help us remember what the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution are really about..

S
 
Yup, probably.
Let's arrest him on felony charges for his lapse.

"Need" is such a wonderfully subjective word, used by every single despot wishing to legislate others' behavior. "Need" is the bar set by tyrants.

Why do you "need" those black rifles?
Why do you "need" magazines with 10 rounds and more?
Why do you "need" guns in the first place?


Awww, heck, it's too much info to process; let's just jail the guy. We can figure it all out in the morning...he'll keep. Good job team.
Rich
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Wow. :eek:

That was a joke. It is quite unacceptable to be "pumping" one's genitals aboard an airplane by most everybody's standards. That's why asked whether he needed it aboard the plane; not whether he needed it in general.
It takes "put your seat in the upright position" into a whole new realm.

Rich, why do you feel the "need" to berate my brief humorous statement like such? There is no way you could discern my intent from what I stated. I simply wondered whether or not it would have been easier on him if he'd checked it into his luggage. Didn't say it was wrong that he didn't!

Let's arrest him on felony charges for his lapse...Awww, heck, it's too much info to process; let's just jail the guy. We can figure it all out in the morning...he'll keep. Good job team.
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Sarcasm isn't polite. I wouldn't treat you that way, don't treat me that way.

I do agree his arrest is not justified. While his choices were certainly not logical, they were by far legal.


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Reminds me of the guy who was mentally unstable and was shot and killed by g-men when he wanted to get off of a plane on the tarmac, and forced his way back up the ramp. Several g-men heard him say "bomb", yet none of the many witnesses on the plane heard the word bomb - strange, that.
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There's more to that story. The man reached into his bag after proclaiming he had a bomb aboard the airplane. Anyone with common sense would react to that threat. Witnesses may not have even known something was wrong until the shots were fired. Many people walk around with their heads in the sand.

Those officers acted correctly. They did what anyone who valued innocent life would do. They had no way of knowing whether the man was lying or not; and frankly, had I been aboard I would hope they would act. Why value someone who threatens others over innocent persons?
 
Those officers acted correctly. They did what anyone who valued innocent life would do. They had no way of knowing whether the man was lying or not; and frankly, had I been aboard I would hope they would act. Why value someone who threatens others over innocent persons?
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This paragraph, particularly the last sentence, only holds up if you accept the official (read: the TSA/DHS) version of events. Personally having read a bit about the incident I find the evidence that the victim (my bad, perpetrator) ever threatened any innocent life to be flimsy at best.

Actually, I suspect their emphatic assertions that he claimed to have a bomb are along the same lines as the old "He's coming right for us!" bit on South Park. But that's just my tinfoil hat theory...there is no more evidence for that version of events than for the "official" one.

Oddly, my skepticism regarding that case is eerily similar to my skepticism regarding the official (read: TSA) version of events regarding our Iraqi friend and his enhancement hardware. To suggest that somebody would claim to have a bomb to avoid the embarrasment of having a penis pump is the most ludicrous assertion ever, yet you know they will stick to it so as to justify his arrest.
 
The guy said pump, the screener thought he said bomb, and everyone is going to busily do their best to embody the backwards 10th century and earlier practice of saving face by insisting that he decided to say 'bomb' in order to not have an embarrassing situation result.
 
OITC-
If I gave offense, I apologize. I was not aware that you were being humorous and I did not attack or berate you; only the perceived argument. As you point out, had you been serious, your argument would have been silly.
Rich
 
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