TSA payback? Go directly to jail.

Technically, the TSA's conduct was not assault. She may not have liked it, but the woman effectively consented to the touching thus it was neither an assault nor a battery.

The woman's proper response would be to tell the agent that's enough and to stop, and figure things out from there. Turning around and grabbing her breasts and asking if she liked it was beyond the pale.
 
And of course the country is safer having searched this 62 year old school
teacher, makes more sense each day. :barf:
 
Tsa

Grandma messed up and will now pay up.......... :o

Like it or not the TSA is doing a service to the air travel community. If you don't consent or don't like it - try Greyhound.........

I for one think it has worked to some extent....... Don't remember of too many hijackers getting through the system TSA is trying to operate.

Yep, it's a pain in the rump..........but I think it's worth it....

TSA is no different than any other agency of the United States Government. A few bad apples might work there. Last time I checked that holds true in the private business world community as well.... ;)
 
Like it or not the TSA is doing a service to the air travel community. If you don't consent or don't like it - try Greyhound.........
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Oh yeah, great job, again searching senior citizens makes me feel safe. :barf:
 
Don't remember of too many hijackers getting through the system TSA is trying to operate.
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Remember, some of the NOW TSA workers, were employed THEN (pre9/11) as contract security workers at various airports. Searching seniors is not going to make us safer, it just conditioning people to respond.
 
Don't remember of too many hijackers getting through the system TSA is trying to operate.
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isnt it still SOP to NOT search those of middle eastern descent because we're afwaid we'll huwt theywe fweeelings?

funny, i don't remember hearing of any on the watch list getting arrested trying to get on an airplane, or trying to sneak weapons onboard.

whats your take on passengers getting fined thousands of dollars for merely being rude to TSA thugs? is that part of the program to make our airlines safer?
 
"Oh yeah, great job, again searching senior citizens makes me feel safe."

Senior citizens have never committed a crime?

Wow.

I guess the 74-year-old man whose trial I sat in on some years ago was actually 35?

He was 74, but he still managed to break his 25-year-younger neighbor's jaw, nose, and a couple of ribs...
 
Amerika, Amerika, God have mercy on your "citizens"

wait. its NOT assault to be groped by the TSA. but it IS assault to grope the TSA?
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Welcome to The New Amerika. Submit, conform, obey or you will be crushed. Resistance is futile.

You think this one is bad - how about this:
My buddy - best man at my wedding - has a sister who is a senior flight attendant for United Airlines; she flies out of Washington, DC. His sister told him the following story:

She was clearing security to board the aircraft for her upcoming flight. Another United flight attendant was clearing security, carrying a salad in a clear see-thru container which she had just bought from one of the airport resturants. The TSA "security professional" told her to put it thru the x-ray machine. All she said was, "I'm going to eat that and I'd rather you hand inspect it than x-ray it."

Because of her "belligerant attitude," she was pulled aside. This woman, who was wearing a DC airport photo ID, which was issued by the DC airport, a United Airlines employee photo ID, issued by United, and had on her person her driver's license with a photo - THREE PHOTO IDs, ALL ISSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT OR BY GOVERNMENT APPROVED ENTITIES (United Airlines) was forced into a room AND STRIP-SEARCHED BY TSA - JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD THE POWER TO DO SO.

Welcome to The New Amerika. When it comes right down to it, We The People have no rights. Just ask the pepole in Conneticutt whose homes were snatched from under them withthe blessing of the Supreme Court - the great defender of the rights of the people.

The Founders must be rolling over in their graves in their own vomit.
 
Like it or not the TSA is doing a service to the air travel community. If you don't consent or don't like it - try Greyhound.........
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My fellow Earthicans, we enjoy so much
freedom it's almost sickening. We're free
to choose which hand our sex monitoring
chip is implanted in. And if we don't want
to pay our taxes, why, we're free to spend
a weekend with the pain monster.

And if you don't see the connection between a weekend with the pain monster and "Going Greyhound," you probably never have.
 
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I know you all love the federal government and the endless jobs it pays each month. I like less government as well. When 9-11 hit the security forces in airports were not even close to real world. I wonder what all of you TSA haters would have suggest to improve air travel security? Do you know what type of process is involved to get a job with TSA? Do you have a friend or family member that works at TSA? I have a sister that did for a short time. She missed her job with the state police a little more than she liked her new supervisor duty at TSA. Did this young new agency have issues? Sure it did. Did it have some problems that were trying to get fixed or reworked? Yes to that one too. It makes me wonder how American's think we could have safe air travel out of our airports if we didn't have some sort of screen element? I like my private world and freedoms as much as the next citizen does. I think that on 9-11 a few things in our almost wonderful little world changed. That change forced us to change as well. So my question to you TSA haters is: What would you do if you had to make air travel safe? Any real advice would be interesting to hear.

It must also be hard to do this job so as to not piss someone off. Let see if we check African Americans, young Americans, old Americans, lady Americans, Native Americans, Middle Eastern looking Americans, handi cap/challenged physical Americans, any Americans that look or act different, every 23rd ticket holder Americans, one way ticket holding Americans........... Do we understand each other yet????????? If not I guess any further debate would be wasted time on my part...... ;)

ps......... yep, done bus transportation a lot in my life........No, didn't like it enough to make it my choice....... I don't mind TSA checking me.

ps#2........yep, like it or not, the TSA agent was doing her job. She is employed by Uncle Sam (that means tax payers). Does she have any rights as a person when she performs her job in TSA uniform? I tend to think she has same rights as you and I. The older lady could have complained to a team leader, filled a legal action or many other logical things. She did not go this route. She instead got mad and took physical action against the TSA worker. She deserves a fine in my book. We should wake up and revisit the issue folks. The older lady is 100% to blame for her foolish actions. The TSA agent isn't. ;)
 
"So my question to you TSA haters is: What would you do if you had to make air travel safe? Any real advice would be interesting to hear."

I think one good place to start would be to make it as easy as possible for flight crew members (yes, *anyone* who is paid to be on the airplane when it is in flight) to be trained and armed. They would be required to pass the "normal" background checks, but once that is done, they would be allowed to carry concealed firearms (at least) any time they are on airport property or in an airplane.

Tim
 
When 9-11 hit the security forces in airports were not even close to real world. I wonder what all of you TSA haters would have suggest to improve air travel security
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Re-nutting the American male would be a good start.

That's what kept plane #4 from finding it's mark on 9/11,,not some airport BS.
 
I'm not so much interested in the airport checks, the incompetence or the absurd bans...including nail files and other "pointy objects".

I'm more interested in the secretive "regulations" and the arbitrary, arrogant and insensitive treatment I've seen and received from TSA. Simply because one has an "important" job to do, one is not excused from the code of civil conduct and common courtesy.

So, what would I do? I'd set up a Code of Conduct and then start firing some of these people for offenses other than stealing my belongings. Pretty simple, really.....they're hardly on the "front lines" of violent encounters; they work for the American public; teach them that lesson.

For my own part, I will not fly commercial, except in the most dire circumstances. It simply is not worth the abuse.
Rich
 
Tim........

Ok, Tim I hear your idea. If we arm more airport and airline folks that will do what? It could make things better and safer? It might be true. I tend to think if a bad apple got a brief case thru the screen system and was on board, what will a plane with half the folks on board armed do? If same bad apple has intent to blow the thing over a populated area or significant location, he will do it with no person ever having a time to react. So, I'm back to the screen portion of security. That falls back into TSA laps. I won't defend them because they can do that for themselves. I will continue to state they have important job to do. As of this moment our screen force at airports is TSA. Some are being weeded out. They get watched and reprimanded if they screw up. They also get fired too. They aren't above the law and I again state they are people too. ***Back to the issue.........Did grandma mess up? YES........ and she will pay. Is that a bad thing? NO, she broke a few rules/laws. Like it or not we have to try to play by the rules. Is life unfair because of this....... Yep, it likely isn't perfect but it beats the alternative doesn't it?????????? ;)
 
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