Trigger pull

jimbob86 said:
Oftentimes I wonder if the popularity of the cheap plastic wundernines is not based on the fact that the largest part of the buyers of these things don't know any different ..... this thread is confirming that theory....
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Possibly because some of us own all-metal wundernines like the Star 30 MI
that have great triggers from the factory ;)

Although one could say that some of that was luck, as it truly depended on
who built the pistol as to how good the particular trigger was ;)
 
Not trigger pull but trigger control, if you can control the trigger the pull doesn’t matter. Then all the minutia isn’t noticeable.

The trigger is just a lever that needs to be pulled not something that is worshipped.


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Not trigger pull but trigger control, if you can control the trigger the pull doesn’t matter. Then all the minutia isn’t noticeable.

The trigger is just a lever that needs to be pulled not something that is worshipped.
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Thats probably the best Ive ever seen it put into writing. :)
 
Hmmm

I am not a 1911 guy.

I do tend to contemplate how much of the popularity of the 1911 design is due to the SA trigger.

Newbies tend to gravitate to the 1911 for this reason.
 
A reason factory double action revolver triggers are at abut 12 pounds average is because when you've got that "all shook up" feeling during a possible confrontation, you won't notice that "heavy" trigger.

Your fine motor skills won't be there to handle a much lighter trigger.

Repeat, your fine motor skills won't be there when you are "all shook up."

Real world reasons exist for the NY Glock trigger, the DA only autos and the DA only revolvers for police who are more likely to face danger in their careers than the average citizen.
 
While it is true that autopistol triggers are intentionally made heavier for certain police departments due to concerns about liability, the primary reason that DA revolver triggers tend to be heavy has more to do with the fact that it is difficult to make them otherwise given the work that a DA trigger must perform.
 
With all the foregoing, I'll make these observations:

Free Pistol shooters adjust their triggers for the minimum weight permitted. They are capable of much finer shooting than I was ever capable of, even on my best day. There have even been attempts to make electronic trigger releases.

I'm no slouch with the handgun. I once considered becoming an exhibition shot and have cut playing cards edgewise, cut thread in two, and cut the string on tethered helium filled balloons and popped the balloon with the second shot. I recently bought a Colt New Frontier with a bad trigger. I out shot everyone else on the range with that gun, but still was not as good as I can do. I always do better with a gun that has a decent trigger.

Bob Wright
 
Every shooter probably needs one of these...
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I'll say it, lots of us aren't as fit as we should be, me included.
Truly do miss the Army, for if nothing else, PT did keep us in shape.

One who works their muscles on a regular basis is going to perceive trigger pull
far differently than a couch potato will. # number really doesn't matter much.
Smooth operation in the trigger assembly makes much more of a difference.

It is a total package thing..crisp trigger that breaks like a glass rod, pulled by
a healthy individual that does exercise on a regular basis...is going to beat
a Tater every time. Unless the Tater is Bob Munden...yet even he worked out his
hands on a daily basis with speed drills...so that's doing the needed exercise.

Can I get an Amen for us getting off our butts and getting some exercise??
Guarantee we'll all feel better in six weeks!
 
Green Lantern said:
I understand that trigger pull is a part of accuracy.

What is a good trigger pull?

Noticed the Ruger SR9 is 6.5 lbs striker fired. It's listed as double action only. Interesting how odd triggers can be called by different names.
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1.) When you aim , it seems to fires the gun by your thought .
2.) You hit what you are aiming at most of the time.
3.) when using it...it puts a smile on you face and a song in your heart .
4.) A target trigger job done by Clark Custom Guns.

I have a target trigger job by Clark Custom on a simple Ruger MKII it fulfills 1 -3 and brings me more pleasure than a lovely willing woman.

At least once in your life you need to experience a truly custom target trigger job on a handgun...it's just so sweet . Put it on your bucket list.
Gary
 
Free Pistol shooters adjust their triggers for the minimum weight permitted.
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I think the free pistol category is something all together different than what most of us are using our pistols for at the range, let alone in defensive situations.

I learned on DA pistols. I still dry fire a RG something or other DA revolver frequently to practice trigger control.

If the trigger weight goes over about ten pounds it starts to be problematic. Under ten pounds is better. The factory norm of about 5-7 pounds works great for me.

I don't even mind reasonable pre-travel or over travel.

What kills me is grit or sponginess. Any grit or sponginess and I can't stand to shoot a firearm.

Several companies are custom printing shoes. I don't imagine it will be too long before similar technology is used to print grip modifications. I am guessing that will change some of how people feel about triggers as I notice many people do not have proper grip on gun, thus their finger is not positioned on the trigger correctly, and a lighter weight allows them to get away with it.
 
You guys talk of the "1911 family". Which one?

A lot of companies make a 1911. Are they all the same trigger?
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They are all basically the same design, but quality varies WIDELY. I'm in the minority on this, but most people think all 1911s have great triggers because they are short and light. But honestly, many are gritty, rough and generally sloppy out of the box.

For me, pull weight within reason isn't a factor - my S&W 642 J Frame is probably up around 13 lbs but it is slick as snot and breaks cleanly. I don't "talk myself down" by telling myself "it's 13 lbs so it is impossible."
Consequently, it was easier to shoot well than either of my out of the box 1911s which had terrible (Springfield Mil-Spec) and marginal triggers (Colt Series 70 repro).

These days, I've gotten to the point where as long as the actual break itself is fairly clean (the point at which the sear releases the hammer or striker), I can achieve a decent level of "combat accuracy" at 15 yard distances. For such work, a perfect trigger really isn't necessary.
 
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