Trigger finger where?

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kesserman

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Is there a difference between keeping your index finger 'straight' along the frame

or

Is it okay to let your wrap around the outside of the trigger guard?

Anytime I see the guys in Iraq, their finger is straight along the frame. Is there a tactical advantage as opposed to curving it around the outside of the guard? (assuming their fingers are long enough)

I'm assuming straight because you have to make the conscious effort to bend your finger to manipulate the trigger.

Trying to build the right form.

Thanks
 
The Alaska DPS Academy teaches finger extended high along the slide.
As a certified police firearms instructor teaching the same curriculum, I teach the same thing.
 
Craigntx, not sure if you are serious or not. In a combat situation (war, home defense, whatever) if you think it always takes a CONSCIOUS effort to pull a trigger - Glock or otherwise - you have another thing coming.
Picture yourself walking down the hallway in the dark after hearing a bump in the night. Your finger is on the trigger and the gun is at the ready. You are scared and your adrenal glands are practically squirting their juice into your system. Your daughter suddenly jumps out in front of you to ask what is going on. What you'll likely experience is an unconscious trigger pull, a bang, and a dead child.

Again, I wasn't sure if you were joking or not.........
 
I press my index finger hard into the side of the trigger guard with my first (closest to the tip) knuckle bent. It takes nothing to get it on the trigger, but it is not enough to actually pull it, and it takes up most of the slack, but my finger is on the trigger and ready if I need to bend the middle knuckle.

Now, I am not in Iraq, where I am patrolling for hours either. This is the method I use for discerning yes or no targets at the range and for "bump in the night" occassions.

Look at just about anyone "patrolling" with a rifle and I would guess the finger is along the frame and not wrapped aroung the trigger guard. My guess is because you'd be jumpy enough and on edge and that's the way they were taught and it is easier to see by everyone else that you are carrying safely and that your finger isn't on the trigger!

FWIW
 
Straight finger, it seems more natural to me.

Craigntx: I thank God I don't live in your house. I hope you consider being more safe; I'd rather give up .25 a sec. to a BG than shoot someone I didn't want to.

Chase
 
kesserman ~

Train yourself to keep your trigger finger straight and touching the frame above the trigger guard.

The reason for this is that if your finger is resting on the trigger guard and you trip, slip, or are startled by something, your entire hand, including your trigger finger, will reflexively clench shut.

If your trigger finger is in line with the trigger when that happens, you're at a high risk for an ND. But if it is above the trigger, and already firmly against the frame, you're a lot less likely to have a startle-reflex ND.

pax
 
Here are some pics. Please excuse the house, I'm single (and that IS my excuse! :D):

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And yes, I hold the guns this way every time that I hold them, this was not done for "see, I follow the rules". If it were, I wouldn't have taken them while the house was this dirty :D.

Wayne

*Oh: Top picture FM 9mm
Bottom picture, new Taurus I just bought today: M85UL .38spl
 
craigntx said:
no daughter, chicks back in bed
if i had a house fulla rugrats, things might be diff.
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Wow. It seems to me that you regard yourself as outside the scope of all the traditional training admonitions that we get handed down through the generations. "Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire." I'm sure that practice has saved countless lives. I'm also pretty sure that they arrived at that being one of the Big Four for a very good reason.

Do you really feel you are above doing things the safe way? Are you infallible or something?


-azurefly
 
Massad Ayoob teaches a third finger set: trigger finger curved and pressed against the frame above the trigger (sort of like what miconoakisland described). His rationale is that this provides leverage against a gun grab, and is quicker to the trigger if necessary.
 
you have GOT to be kidding....!

on the f'n trigger
it takes a conscious effort to PULL THE TRIGGER
:eek:

The sound you hear is the hysterical laughter coming from Spring, Texas. Who are you KIDDING? Did you even READ that (now thankfully LOCKED) thread about the ND my idjit Youngest Son had???? Do you think that was conscious effort? No...it was STUPID. And every human being on the planet is capable of being STUPID. That's why you keep your finger OFF the "f'n trigger".

The four rules are great but I still think the best one is found in somebody's sig line:

keep your finger off the trigger
keep your finger off the @#$#@$ trigger
keep your @$@#$@ finger off the @#$@#$@ trigger....

For everybody's sake! Yours, girlfriend's, next-door neighbors....

If a load of Sure-Shot heavy dove load can go through our CEILING, our ROOF, and sprinkle itself around the yard, what do you think a round from your Glock will do when, not if, you trip, sneeze, cough, are surprised, or something else startling, and you are holding it with your finger on the trigger?

And some of you guys wondered why I posted our ND experience. It is so people could hopefully LEARN that you can't be too careful....

Springmom the amazed
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you aint sexy enough to live here
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Uhh...are we talking about the same Galveston here? Sexy and Galveston don't belong in the same sentence without a superlative negation.
 
"Massad Ayoob teaches a third finger set: trigger finger curved and pressed against the frame above the trigger (sort of like what miconoakisland described). His rationale is that this provides leverage against a gun grab, and is quicker to the trigger if necessary."

Oh please, this guy farts and people run around thinking he's the greatest.

How is having the tip of the finger instead of the whole finger, better leverage???

Placing the trigger finger anywhere on the trigger guard is a disaster waiting to happen. It is way too easy for your finger to slip and be in cocntact with the trigger. Try it sometime, how easy is it for your finger to move as compared to being pressed against the frame/slide? Where is your finger going to go when its along the frame/slide? Now where.
 
On target, On trigger.

Off target, OFF trigger!


As Pax mentioned, having your trigger finger on the side of the slide or frame reduces the possibility of reflexing your finger into the trigger. Having the trigger finger out front of the guard puts it directly in line with the trigger and could result in a discharge if you were to fall, get spooked, sneeze, whatever. Side of the slide is probably the best place for that finger unless you are on target and ready to fire.
 
Massad Ayoob's contention is that rigger so pressed gives more leverage against twisting a gun away than a straight finger.
 
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