Tough Choice, 460 xvr or Five-seveN

S&W 460xvr or FN Five-seveN

  • 460 xvr

    Votes: 20 62.5%

  • Five-seveN

    Votes: 12 37.5%
  • Total voters
    32
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chucky

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Hey guys. Ive been lurking here forever but finally decided to get in on the action. Good info without all the bs like some of the boards.

Now i got a problem i was hoping you all could help me out with. Ive been planning on buying a s&w 460 since my buddy let me shoot his a few months back. But yesterday i got to shoot a fn five-seven and i loved it. I wish i could buy both but unfortunately thats not in the cards. This will be my last firearm purchase for a long long time as the wife (aka the BOSS) thinks i already have too many and honestly in just ready to be done buying and start stocking up on ammo.

The 460 is amazing and it would be used for hunting on occassion as well as just making my buddies giggle when that monster goes off. Now the five seven was one of the sweetest shooting semis ive ever been around and a very interesting cartridge. Super accurate and no recoil. Great varmint control gun with 20 rounds in the mag.

Price of the two is roughly in the same ballpark and ammo cost isnt that big a deal to me either. I do reload. So whats ur opinion? Good bad or indifferent. You wont hurt my feelins. I know theyre on opposite ends of the spectrum but if you could only have one which would you choose and why.

Sorry for the long post. Mighta tapped into the bud light a lil early today!
 
Talk about apples and oranges. Since you reload the .460 offers so much more. If it's for self defense the Five-Seven would be a better choice. Could live without either but wouldn't mind both. My vote is for the .460
 
if you could only have one which would you choose and why
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Me... The FN 5.7... but I don't hunt. The 460 would be good for a few chuckles but then I'd have no actual use for it... Too much of a huge heavy oddball for me...
 
The revolver is practical, since you plan on hunting with it. You could use .45 colt for practice.

As far as the 5.7mm, it doesn't appeal to me. The round was designed to be armor piercing, however, the civilian ammo without a steel core will not pentrate the level IIIa soft armor that's the standard of the day. That defeats the purpose of the round. I guess it could be fun for long range, low recoil shooting? Chances are you already have a pistol or two to fill the self defense niche.

As far as round count, there are plenty of reliable high-round count mags for various 9mm platforms. I have a very reliable 19 round Mec-gar mag for my CZ-75B.
 
o yea. Definitely apples to oranges. Maybe even worse! Like i said complete opposite ends of the spectrum. Both of those would just be more "play" guns then anything else. But i could see either one of them rounding out my collection nicely. Thanks for the responses so far.
 
Both of those would just be more "play" guns then anything else. But i could see either one of them rounding out my collection nicely.
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And there you go. If you already have a personal defensive weapon(s), and you have a hunting handgun(s)... then it's just which ever one you think will be the most fun to shoot and load for. They both have their "fun per dollar" attributes, so other than deprecation, I can't really fault either choice.

Maybe a .50 Desert Eagle would serve as a nice "bigass bullet in a semi-auto format" compromise? :D:D:D... or not.

C
 
Just for shooting fun and ammo prices, the 5.7 wins out big time. For versatility and a first class hunting arm, there's the 460. If you're buying a "toy," (I know people hate that word, but what else could you call it?) then the 5.7 would be great. The 460 is too much for me. My most powerful handgun is a .357. I really like my friend's 5.7, though. That would be an option for a defense gun/plinker.
 
I have never shot a Five seven, but I've had my 460 (BFR) for about six months now. The 460 is a fun round to reload for. I have been shooting and reloading 45 Colt, 454 Casull and 460 rounds through it, but I have quit shooting the smaller two and just stick to 460 now. I found that accuracy can be really terrible with 45 Colt and 454 depending on the load. When I load 45 Colts with Unique powder (doesn't matter what charge I use) the bullets tumble during flight. So on one shot you might hit the bullseye, the next one may be five feet high (yes that far off), the next 5 feet to the left, etc. So if I want wimpy loads, I use lead bullets with Trail Boss powder in 460 brass. Nice soft shooting and very accurate. For hot loads, I've settled on Lil Gun powder. I have also experimented with W296, 2400, and IMR4227. Lil Gun seemed to give me the best accuracy so I stuck with that. The 4227 works well for slightly tamed down loads, compared to the other powders.

Good luck making a choice! :D
 
Where is the biggest hole in your stable?

Without knowing what other guns you have in your stable it is hard to know what might fill any niche that needs filling (or scratch an itch that needs scratching).

Lost Sheep
 
I have no experience reloading 5.7mm, but I do know that my reloading book has a big warning for reloading 5.7x28. Apparently it's rather finicky and harder to load correctly. Again, this is coming from the loading handbook I bought, NOT personal experience. Take it for what it's worth.
 
I vote 460vxr because of the versatility. You can utilize 45 Colt, 454, and 460 ammunition all are very easy to load. The 5.7 I was going to reload for but then read the big warnings and as fate would have it witnessed a 5.7 blow up from reloading. There is a lacquer on the case that when cleaned to much will come off and present a ton of problems. That day I decided no 5.7 for me.

By the way I have some hornady dies for 5.7 and many cases sitting around unused, make me a deal. I guess I finally should put this on the for sale group.
 
Yea i guess i should have included what else i have. Duh. As far as handguns go Ive got a ruger p95, glock 21, taurus tcp, older taurus 38 special(was my dads, not sure of specific model) and a kel-tec plr-22. Not really a handgun but thats what they consider it anyway.
 
Me... The FN 5.7... but I don't hunt. The 460 would be good for a few chuckles but then I'd have no actual use for it... Too much of a huge heavy oddball for me...
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This is me as well. I would add that I would like to have a FiveseveN anyway, but the price is crazy.
 
Don't hunt anymore, but do love hiking the wild, and if I am in a predators front yard, the S&W 460 is the perfect predator in my face gun.

Got to shoot one, they recoil about as much as a 44 Mag, but they are bigger & heavier than an N frame. Still kicking myself for not picking up a S&W 460 2.75" snubby when I had the chance.

Great trail gun.
 
I'll have to disagree with you on the recoil comparison to the 44 mag. No comparison at all. Even at 5.5 pounds, my BFR kicks way more than any 44 I've shot.
 
You're not going to be reloading for the 5.7, if that helps you decide.

I put a mag through one, pretty much a one-trick pony. The owner said he's pretty bored with it and only sends a box downrange every couple months or so.

Then again, the XVR probably won't see more than a couple dozen rounds per range session with that recoil. Just my observations watching others at the range.
 
chucky said:
Yea i guess i should have included what else i have. Duh. As far as handguns go Ive got a ruger p95, glock 21, taurus tcp, older taurus 38 special(was my dads, not sure of specific model) and a kel-tec plr-22. Not really a handgun but thats what they consider it anyway.
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By the way, welcome to the forum and thanks for asking our advice.

Usually such questions bring as my first response "Picking a gun for someone else is like picking their spouse."

However, looking at your collection,
Glock 21 45 ACP
Taurus 38 Special
Ruger P95 9mm
Taurus tcp 380 ACP
Kel-tec plr 22 rimfire

Candidates: S&W XVR 460 S&W
FN 5.7mm

Two other candidates where I see openings in your inventory:
A decent target grade 22 rimfire:
1) S&W Model 41
2) Browning Buckmark
3) Ruger Mk III
4) S&W revolver (K-22, 617)
5) Ruger Single Six 22 rimfire

Single Action Centerfire revolver (Western style, if your taste may run that direction)

Large caliber revolvers other than the S&W XVR are 44 Magnum, 45 Colt (Redhawk can take +p loads), 454 Casull and the 500 S&W. My taste runs to the Ruger and the Ruger Super Redhawk is ready for a scope to be mounted.

You do look a little short on revolvers.

Lost Sheep
 
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Thanks for all the ideas guys. I am a lil short on wheel guns for sure. And as far as reloading for the 5.7, its quite difficult and highly frowned upon but it can be done. They say it will void your warranty but what the heck. Id do it. But truth be told i was leaning toward the 460 in the begining and im still favoring that direction. Seems like thats the way most others here think too. So i guess that means im not crazy. Maybe.
 
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