Too many rounds down range?

TXAZ said:
Since the only measurable difference in the gun is the barrel temperature, It is therefore intuitively obvious that a hot barrel will shoot groups 1/3 the size of a stone cold barrel.
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Maybe you just made that hot-barrel comment tongue-in-cheek, and it just flew over my head! If not,I think it far more likely that you've simply gotten back in the groove after time away from triggers and targets.

I've never really seen that much difference in barrel performance as the barrel got hotter.

I'd argue that accuracy has far more to do with whether the gun locks up consistently after each shot, and whether you, as the shooter can do the right things. Wwhile lockup can be affected by heat, I'm not sure its safe to assume that extra heat will make the gun lock up better or the barrel perform better, either.
 
When i attended law enforcement shooting courses for rangemasters, a three day course required a 1000 rd box of ammo and my Glock 23. I always sent a second range gun with other officers that i sent as a backup for breakage. It was never used and the case of ammo was empty at the end of training, no warped barrels or frames in fact when cleaned the pistols were ready to do battle from the officers holster.
I asked Glock if i should be replacing springs on 150 pistols on a regular basis and was told " don't worry about it". After ten years th pistols were traded on new generations and all still had oiginal springs.
We fired close to 100,000 rounds each year for training and issue.
 
Ibmikey said:
We fired close to 100,000 rounds each year for training and issue.
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I don't doubt the point you're making about guns being pretty reliable with little or no required maintenance, but the round count cited above seems strangely high.

How many officers were involved in that 100,000 round outlay, and were you talking about "rangemaster" training?

Most of the officers I know seldom shoot their duty weapons more than maybe 90 round each time they qualify (which may be once a year.) I have friends in local metropolitan police departments, among sheriff's deputies, and a son who is a State Trooper. About the only time THEY shoot their duty weapons -- there are exceptions -- is when they qualify, which is often just annually. That's why, I think, most police trade-on show only holster wear.

Ammo budgets have been pretty tight here in the Southeast over the past 7-8 years. Officers with ARs or Shotguns are seldom given "practice" ammo, and if they want to practice with THOSE weapons, they have to do it on their dime. (While some officers do have access to practice ammo in their duty caliber, they typically get a few hundred rounds, not thousands, and most of them seem to use it in their personal off-duty weapons, which are the same caliber.)

You must have a unique, enviable, and very admirable situation.
 
An average trip for me is about 150 rounds in about 45 minutes. It's not an issue in handguns, either from a wear standpoint or an accuracy standpoint. Benchrest rifle shooters don't like hot barrels (three or four shots) because it affects accuracy. Again, though, not an issue in handguns.
 
It definitely won't hurt your gun or accuracy, and I don't consider 200 rounds in 90 minutes excessive at all.

I tend to show up to the range with plenty of loaded mags, so I don't waste time loading at the range. I always show up with a specific plan, and slow, aimed, fire is rarely it. I already know where I'm at with that, I'm more interested in transitioning targets, controlled pairs, controlled rapid fire, etc.

Pretty much the only time I do slow, aimed, fire is when I'm working on accuracy for new handloads.

At least with pistols.
 
Thanks guys. I didn't think it was an issue and it's not.
The only issue is me paying attention to what my BiL says.
 
Whatever you enjoy. For me a range session with a handgun is usually 1 hour/50 rounds, though I most often shoot slow fire/target stance.
 
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