To all of you CZ fans . . .

For a long time I wasn't a CZ fan because I didn't like the finish on their guns. I equated a painted/coated gun with trying to hide sloppy finishing. I did know that my dislike for the finish didn't necessarily make the guns functionality less than excellent, but I just couldn't get passed it.

Then the CZ 75B came out in two stainless finishes - both of which I really like. I was planning on buying one in the bright or mat finish. Then, I saw a glossy blue CZ 75B and, boy did I have to have it! It's one of my favorite 9mm's (outside of my Sig X-Five).
 
For an aesthetic gun their polycoat (I think?) does leave something to be desired. But it is absolutely tough as nails. I've drawn and holstered my SP01 probably over 1000 times and haven't seen the slightest bit of wear on it. The only dings in the finish came from when I was trying to remove the mangled up factory trigger pin with a pair of pliers. Even then it held up pretty well.
 
I'm not a fan of the Omega trigger. It does give a smoother SA pull, but I find the DA pull to be stagey and stiff.

The stock trigger does break in and smoothen out remarkably over time. The SA pull on my ~15 year old 75B is better than any Hi Power out there, trigger job or not. My P-01 trigger is still breaking in, but there was a noticeable difference between when it was new and how it was after 2,000 rounds.
 
The SA pull on my ~15 year old 75B is better than any Hi Power out there, trigger job or not.
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No, not better than my Hi-Power!:D I would have to feel that to believe it. Even if my 75B has was worked on to give it a smooth, clean break, the take-up alone in SA mode is enough for me to choose my Hi-Power's trigger as the better trigger.

I have two guns that are DA/SA that have really good SA trigger pulls.....for a DA/SA. They are my Tanfoglio Stock 10mm and my CZ 75B, in that order. Still, neither of these triggers comes close to my Hi-Power, Colt Gold Cup, or Sig X-Five - Sig X-Five being the best of all of them.
 
All I know about CZ's is that the ones I bought; I like. For the money, the CZ75 TS is a winner. For fitting my hands, the CZ75 SP-01 Shadow Target II is great. I shoot the TS best. I think because it is heavier.

I have a couple based on CZ design: Witness Elite Limited, Grand Power X-Caliber and Sphinx Compact.
 
Spats,

You have to get a cz. You have no idea what you are missing. I don't need to sell you on their finer points as everyone already has. My cz 75b has seen well over 6000 rounds. I honestly have no idea how many I was keeping track up till about 4k and that was a couple years ago with more range time than I have ever put in since. Let me tell you that they run. I have gone over 1000 rounds without cleaning without a hiccup. I have not changed anything, it is still bone stock. I know I need to change the spring because every once in a while Ill have bent mouths of the extracted cases. I actually had a few weeks ago a fte. It was my 3rd out of all the rounds I've put through it. The other two were in the same mag from the same box of ammo at maybe 4000 rounds. I no longer use that ammo and it was the only box of wwb I've ever put through it. Almost all the ammo I have put through has been blazer brass. I even put through 100 rounds of the new browning steel cased with the gun unclean and shot several hundred more brass after. That is when I received my 3rd ever fte. All my fte's were jams caused by the case not fully ejecting and it getting caught on closer. Like I said, I need to replace the guide rod spring.

I am more than happy with it. It's my favorite handgun by far. I also worked armed security with it and it has seen lots of being brought in and out of the holster including drills from the draw. I would have to say it has been in and out of the holster thousands of times. The only wear that can be seen is at the tip of the slide and the ambi safeties. My holster was also made for a sig 226 so it's not even the right holster. (I needed it that day for qualification) the holster works fine though. It's a safari land duty holster with leather lining.

You already know exactly what you are getting when you buy one but I thought I would give you a high milage account of the capabilities of one. Also if you get one. I would go steel and not their polymer offerings. Not that their is anything wrong with them but their base steel design has been copied for a long time, so cut your teeth on something close to the original. I plan to pick up the sp01 soon.

Ps. My cz75b is chambered in 40
 
Thanks to everyone who posted. You've all been very generous with your knowledge.

It must have been about 2013 that I handled a CZ P-07 (I think it was). The texturing was very aggressive. Made my Gen 4 G19 feel downright smooth by comparison. Maybe that's changed. Anyway, I don't think I'm overly interested in their polymer offerings. I don't have the budget to buy a new gun without doing a little horse-trading. (That's one of my favorite activities, but I'll have to figure out what I can horse-trade.) My G19 is perfectly reliable for carry, and I won't trade her off for a new gun. So I have to figure out what I have that I can part with.

Anyway, It's the steel or alloy versions that I'm eyeballin'. I'm pleased to hear so many of you say that they are reliable. I'm no gunsmith, and I don't want to spend money on a gun that doesn't run. I mean, I can do basic cleaning and lubing, maybe replace a drop-in part or two, but using files and stones to tune something is beyond me. So I need something that can basically be counted on to run, right out of the box, and it sounds like a metal CZ would fit the bill. In fact, a CZ may have edged out a BHP for the top spot on The Want List.
 
Since you've already got a great carry gun to me that would be a good reason to go full size CZ75. Not sure if rails on pistols make your stomach turn or not but the full length dust cover and rails on the SP01 make the gun heavier than a Govt 1911. In 9mm that makes for one heck of a sweet shooting gun.

And if you decide you want to carry it, it's definitely doable with the right carry gear. I carry mine in this rig and conceal with a medium T shirt over jeans or shorts. The crossbreed belt is superb. The holster I made myself (if you couldn't tell by the burnt kydex :o) and it is comfortable enough that I forget the gun is there some times.
 
Ah, the "burnt kydex" just gives it character! :D

Rails? It depends on the gun. On a Glock? Sure. On a 1911? No. Just no. I think I prefer the CZ 75 without them, but they don't look bad with them. I wouldn't turn down a decent bargain on a 75B with a rail.

Thanks for the info on the crossbreed belt. It's not the topic of this thread, but I might be be belt shopping soon. My Aker B21 has held up well for 6 years, but I'm beginning to wonder how much life is left in it.
 
I'm right there with you Spats, just bought a Shield, so gun funds are low and I don't have anything to trade, but the CZ is next, only bad thing is which one. I pretty much like them all, but am leaning to starting with the flagship 75b, it will not be a carry gun! Keep us posted!
 
Well, if we're doing pictures...

Full size 75B:

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P-01, with extra tacticalness:

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Spats,

Thanks for the comment on my holster work, that's actually my first one.

One thing you will find about CZ pistols is that their nomenclature isn't neither concise nor intuitive. If you were to search for a full size CZ75B with a rail you would turn up squat. However if you looked for a CZ75B compact, those come with or without rails. They are also pretty similar to the CZ75 P01, which is essentially a CZ75BD with a rail. Actually the only difference I can find is that it is the only compact CZ75 with both a decocker and a rail. If you want a CZ75 P01 with a safety there's only one model that offers that, the CZ75 P01 Omega Convertible. But you could just get a CZ75B Compact with a rail. Now if you want a full size CZ75 with a rail the only options are the CZ75 SP01 variants.

To me, there just doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to their assigning of nomenclature to pistols. Maybe adding rails to pistols just threw a wrench into their program. The rest of their pistols' nomenclature makes sense but when they started making CZ75s with rails it kinda went haywire.
 
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