Thunder Ranch and what would you do?
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The minimum ammo requirement for CQC was 1,000 rounds. This was a week-long course that did not focus exclusively on handgun. It is two days of unarmed fighting, one day of handgun retention and two days of close-quarters shooting. Of the 1,000 rounds, we used maybe 800 rounds (at least that was what I counted).
For the record, my S&W snubby's timing gave out on me during the second day of the shooting portion and I had to finish the shooting part with my backup, a Glock 19. The timing was so far off that pulling the trigger would not rotate the cylinder and bits of bullet jacket were shooting out of the cylinder gap and into my non-dominant arm.
But I did not use a glove and I used the stock grips -- I believe they are Uncle Mike's rubber boot grips.
While I do reload my own ammunition, I used only factory ammunition for the class -- Federal American Eagle .38 Special, 130 grain full metal jacket.
This is not to say that I'm sort of superman when it comes to handling recoil. It goes to show that when a gun fits your hand very well, you can do wonders with it. I have relatively small hands (size 6.75 ring) so the small j-frames fit me very well -- I can generally shoot all day and not have any trouble.
I agree that it would be frustrating at first to be in a class with high-cap autoloaders and having to reload a revolver every time you step up to the line. I believe the solution here is: (1) buy lots of speedloaders; and (2) practice reloading. You'll get more repetitions in reloading from the class than the others, for sure.
I use my S&W snubby in IDPA competition, so I'm already used to reloading.
My IDPA club doesn't have a backup gun division, so I find that I have to reload a lot, even during the "revolver neutral" stages, since they are six shot neutral, not five shot neutral.
Mentally, I think it's just a matter of accepting that you're doing the right thing when it comes to training for your survival. Yes, it's hard to accept that you won't "win" each exercise of the class, but you're "training as you live", a very valuable thing indeed.
Now John has a very good point in that while you, as a revolver person, may be very good at reloading, you might perceive that you are slowing down the whole class with your constant reloading. I guess I wasn't sensitive enough to the concerns of my fellow students while I was happily doing speed reloads with my snubby.
Justin
[This message has been edited by jthuang (edited June 19, 2000).]
For the record, my S&W snubby's timing gave out on me during the second day of the shooting portion and I had to finish the shooting part with my backup, a Glock 19. The timing was so far off that pulling the trigger would not rotate the cylinder and bits of bullet jacket were shooting out of the cylinder gap and into my non-dominant arm.
But I did not use a glove and I used the stock grips -- I believe they are Uncle Mike's rubber boot grips.
While I do reload my own ammunition, I used only factory ammunition for the class -- Federal American Eagle .38 Special, 130 grain full metal jacket.
This is not to say that I'm sort of superman when it comes to handling recoil. It goes to show that when a gun fits your hand very well, you can do wonders with it. I have relatively small hands (size 6.75 ring) so the small j-frames fit me very well -- I can generally shoot all day and not have any trouble.
I agree that it would be frustrating at first to be in a class with high-cap autoloaders and having to reload a revolver every time you step up to the line. I believe the solution here is: (1) buy lots of speedloaders; and (2) practice reloading. You'll get more repetitions in reloading from the class than the others, for sure.
I use my S&W snubby in IDPA competition, so I'm already used to reloading.
My IDPA club doesn't have a backup gun division, so I find that I have to reload a lot, even during the "revolver neutral" stages, since they are six shot neutral, not five shot neutral.Mentally, I think it's just a matter of accepting that you're doing the right thing when it comes to training for your survival. Yes, it's hard to accept that you won't "win" each exercise of the class, but you're "training as you live", a very valuable thing indeed.
Now John has a very good point in that while you, as a revolver person, may be very good at reloading, you might perceive that you are slowing down the whole class with your constant reloading. I guess I wasn't sensitive enough to the concerns of my fellow students while I was happily doing speed reloads with my snubby.
Justin
[This message has been edited by jthuang (edited June 19, 2000).]
Whats a revolver?
Just kidding, I started my career off with a Ruger security six. I do enjoy shooting a lot more now that I shoot auto's almost exclusively. It would be a pain to attend the class using a revolver.
[This message has been edited by tlhelmer (edited June 19, 2000).]
Just kidding, I started my career off with a Ruger security six. I do enjoy shooting a lot more now that I shoot auto's almost exclusively. It would be a pain to attend the class using a revolver.
[This message has been edited by tlhelmer (edited June 19, 2000).]