Three More Wins for Gun Owners

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Thursday, December 22, 2011

H.R. 2055—the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2012—has been passed by the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate and has been sent to the President for his expected signature. This bill contains three NRA-backed provisions that will strengthen our Second Amendment rights and prohibit your federal tax dollars from being used to advance an anti-gun agenda.

Stopping Your Tax Dollars From Funding Anti-Gun Studies

No Tax Dollars to Lobby and Promote Gun Control

Protecting Historic Firearms and Spent Brass Casings from Destruction

Full story and details at:
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7211
 
I keep thinking that now that Illinois is the only state thay denies it's citizens any form of carry, that the full force of the NRA and all it's resources will descend upon our state and focus all their polictical might like a laser...

But it hasn't happened... :(
 
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I keep thinking that now that Illinois is the only state thay denies it's citizens any form of carry, that the full force of the NRA and all it's resources will descend upon our state and focus all their polictical might like a laser...

But it hasn't happened...
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Actually, it has happened/is happening... all of the various Chicago cases regarding firearms are all laying the groundwork for that type of challenge. However, the NRA, being the NRA, is just moving slowly and cautiously and the opposition is doing their best to delay and draw it out hoping for a change in the higher court.
 
Good for them. One thing - it mentions the option to buy M-14s. These are fully auto - can they be converted to semi? Or what?

Just renewed for three years - I need to add to my collection of NRA knives. :)
 
Just wondering - if the M-14s can be converted such that they cannot be easily turned back into full auto?

Seems that might be a snag in sales.

Of course, we could send them to Mexico: Merry X-Mas from the AG.

Snide remark on my part. :D
 
Just wondering - if the M-14s can be converted such that they cannot be easily turned back into full auto?
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I believe they can, and there were, as mentioned, a large number of the semi-only version produced. The only thing blocking their DCM sales was ATF's ruling, "Once a Machine Gun, Always a Machine Gun."
 
All M14s were select fire...

Just wondering - if the M-14s can be converted such that they cannot be easily turned back into full auto?

I believe they can, and there were, as mentioned, a large number of the semi-only version produced. The only thing blocking their DCM sales was ATF's ruling, "Once a Machine Gun, Always a Machine Gun."
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There were no semi auto only M14s produced or adopted in govt service. All M14s were select fire. What the govt did, when they realized that the M14 in select fire configuration was not a good idea for general issue to all troops was, to replace the selector lever with a round knob that did not have the cam to move the full auto parts into engagement. They called this part the "selector lock".

With the exception of the activating lever (replaced by the lock) all the full auto parts were retained in the weapon. This meant that driving out a pin, replacing the lock with the lever and putting the pin back in returned the gun to select fire capability.

The lever mounts on a stud near the rear of the receiver. Receivers with the stud for mounting the selector lever are select fire capable, and are machine guns under the law. And as far as I know, all GI M14 receivers have the stud.

The stud can be cut off, rendering the gun semi auto only (even if the rest of the full auto parts -minus the selector lever- are there. And it cannot be returned to select fire capability unless another mounting stud is welded to the receiver, which is not a simple process and can ruin the gun unless done perfectly.

The BATF's rule that "once a machinegun, always a machine gun" is why there have never been any GI M14s for sale to the public. Cut off the stud and take out the rest of the FA parts, its still legally a machine gun, so no sale to civilians, period.

Springfield Armory (and later, other companies) began by selling semi auto M14s (the M1A is Springfield's name for thiers) made from GI parts, with new made civilian semi auto only receivers. All the early guns are made from GI surplus parts, except the receiver. As time passed, the supply of available GI surplus parts was depleted, and today nearly all parts are new made to the original specs.
 
I keep thinking that now that Illinois is the only state thay denies it's citizens any form of carry, that the full force of the NRA and all it's resources will descend upon our state and focus all their polictical might like a laser...
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What about Hawaii?
 
I'm glad this victory has been won.

Why? So that the lobbyists can turn their full attention here to California, where the gun laws need so much help it will take decades to fix them!
 
The President's not happy. From his statement:

Additional provisions in this bill, including section 8013 of Division A and section 218 of Division F, purport to restrict the use of funds to advance certain legislative positions. I have advised the Congress that I will not construe these provisions as preventing me from fulfilling my constitutional responsibility to recommend to the Congress's consideration such measures as I shall judge necessary and expedient.
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^ The average person has no idea what the president is saying here.

What is he saying?

Is he saying that even though no money can be spent on skewed anti-gun studies, he's going to recomend anti-gun legislation anyway ?
 
What do I know but I think it means that he won't tell departments that he has excutive control over to take actions.

So, don't destroy the 1911s. But I order that you do not sell them.

But I ain't no poly sci type.
 
What do I know but I think it means that he won't tell departments that he has executive control over to take actions
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...and since he's soooo fond of HA-Ha-Ha-Hawaii, don't look for gun laws to loosen up there. After all, when he vacations there, he doesn't have to worry about the bad guys getting next to him. His SS army worries about that for him. ;)
 
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It is a good effort.

The congress also needs to look into the National Safety Council's, the council recieves federal funding, compilation of Accident Facts.

A number of years back while I was reviewing the publication, I reviewed the stats on accidental death in AR. I noticed a name which seemed familiar. It was a teenager who attempted to rob a liquor store with a broken TEC 9. Unfortunately, for the punk, a Floating poker game for off duty Cops was in progress in the back room. They shot the robber dead when he pointed the gun at them.

I challenged the NSC on this. They never responded.

I wonder how many teenaged robbers were included as accidents and in turn used to justify the NSCs antigun stance.
 
I challenged the NSC on this. They never responded.

I wonder how many teenaged robbers were included as accidents and in turn used to justify the NSCs antigun stance.
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But it WAS an accident.

The kid accidentally chose the wrong liquor shop to rob.
 
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