Three arrests in Gun show sting

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By Chris Brenner
STAFF WRITER


No ID's: Ammunition sold to undercover police

GRAYSLAKE — Three gun dealers face charges of illegal sale of ammunition at the Lake County Sportsmen's Gun Show on the Lake County Fairgrounds, police said.

Police arrested the three men Sunday. They also found violations at the show related to unsecured weapons and purchased manuals that provide detailed instructions for unlawful acts, according to Police Chief Larry Herzog.

Police detectives were able to purchase ammunition without showing the required Firearms Owner Identification Card or any identification to the three gun dealers who were arrested.

Charged with unlawful sale of ammunition were Calvin Willard, 48, of Niles, Mich., representing Action Arms Ammo of Niles; Roland Gavriolvoch, 74, of DeMotte, Ind., representing Pelcher's Shooters Supply of Lansing, Ill.; and Gerald Raether, 67, of West Allis, Wis.

The three men were released on signature bonds and are scheduled to appear Nov. 6 in Lake County Circuit Court in Waukegan, police said.

Herzog said police continue to find temporary use permit violations at the show regarding unsecured weapons.

These violations Sunday, he said, included two loose weapons on a table next to the show manager's display; a table with 90 to 100 weapons tied two at time to each other but not to the table; and a pistol displayed with a seated magazine.

Herzog said police purchased the following manuals at the gun show:


The Hayduke Silencer Book — Quick and Dirty Homemade Silencers.

How to Make Disposable Silencers — A Complete Guide.

Full Auto Modification Manual — Selective Fire Conversions.
In a prepared statement, Herzog said: "Although not unlawful, these publications provide detailed instructions for unlawful acts, and,according to gun show management, are not sold at the gun show."

The police chief said the gun show manager was notified of these violations at 10 a.m. Sunday, yet the instruction books on homemade silencers and full automatic conversions remained displayed past 12:30 p.m.

A Grayslake Village Board meeting to vote on the sale of guns at the fairgrounds was canceled Tuesday and rescheduled to Nov. 7.

Mayor Pat Carey is backing a resolution affirming the village's opposition to presenting firearms shows at the fairgrounds.


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10/19/00
http://www.copleynewspapers.com/newssun/top/w19gunshow.htm


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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
 
Unlawful books. Jeez, what ever happened to freedom of speech... hell, on the same note, whatever happened to freedom to keep and bear arms, to buy legal goods without "permission"? What a farce. I think that ol' Hitler is smiling.. what war couldn't do, the socialist have.

I own, so therefore I am a criminal. Proud of the fact, happy to be free.

USP45usp

"My lips, my ships". (My new byline)
 
UNLAWFULL BOOKS??? I will limit my response, as anger may make me exceed the limits of decorum. I will simply say: I have shouted it from the rooftops, but I repeat it here, this fight has little to do with firearms, and everything to do with liberty.
 
"firearms owner identification cards"???? Please tell me where this is so I'll make damned sure never to even cross their state lines.

That's the most rediculous sting crap I've ever heard of and I work in LE.

You people need to overturn some laws and force some idiots out of office.

Only id card I have is my Driver's License, Employee ID, and my CCW permit. And of course my Socialist System of American Nincumpoops (SSAN) card. (You know, the one you are paying all that money into that won't be around when you need it???)

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"Charlton Heston is my President"

Danny45
NRA, NAHC, Buckmasters
 
The Lake County show is in Lake County Illinois. They run a good show down there. And, yep, you gotta have an Illinois Firearm Owner Id card to buy anything. Even those of us in the People's City of Milwaukee don't have to endure that. But books? BOOKS? I learned how to make incendiary bombs when I was in junior high, from WWII books from the school library.

Magazines that were tied together but not fastened down properly.

Here in WI, we sometimes jokingly refer to those from Illinois as "FIB's," but the real FIB's are those in office down there.

Dick
Want to send a message to Bush? Sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/monk/petition.html and forward the link to every gun owner you know.
 
The ability to think freely is illegal already in Amerika! The fact that book a containing "instructions for unlawful acts" is quoated as being an arrestable offence, is more than proof of that. Ever single newspaper, magazine has run an article that has "instructions for an illegal act" printed in it.

America has become like Nazi Germany in many ways, only alittle more to go, before....

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Dead [Black Ops]
 
Danny45,

Here in Illinois we need an FOID to so much as touch a gun.

Here's an example of one (mine).

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We had a gun show in Las Cruces, NM this past weekend. I went both days. On the way out on Saturday, I saw a full sized Blazer with US Government plates parked way out by the street. No doubt some ATF agent trying to find something wrong. Back to the original situation though, it looks like, by the looks of the article, that Illinois does not enjoy money from out of state travelers. What a loss. The other 49 states allow freedom of speech. My state allows me to purchase ammo with any picture ID. I guess if I ever go hunting in Illinois I should bring my own ammo.
 
walangkatapat,

Christopher appears to be beyond the pizza diet. More drastic measures are needed. What is required, I think, is the see-food diet.

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Walang and Hk,

Trust me, it won't work.

I eat like a herd of elephants and I still can't get above 150 on my best days.

Thanks for the concern though :)
 
6' 145? Remind me not to let you shoot my Barrett. It might break ya ;) JK

I'm only 5'5 110 :b and I eat like a hog too.
 
Next GS I goto, I'm buying them on principles. Don't care that someone "thinks" they're dangerous or not.

Some folks think the Constitution and BOR are dangerous, and that Amerikaner have too many freedoms.

Weigh out what happened to the author and publisher of the book, "Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors".
They were both sued, and lost because some man supposedly used the book as a guide to do just that. As shown here, http://faculty-web.at.nwu.edu/commstud/freespeech/cont/cases/hitman.html

It might be noted that the man convicted of the murders, was a career felon with a history of committing violent crimes. But the book was banned because of his actions. Another inanimate object held accountable for a human performing a violent(s).
 
Is the foid for long guns as well as handguns? I knew things were bad in some places (CA,NY,NJ,MA) but didn't realize this country had slipped that far into the pit.

Brian
 
PreserveFreedom,
Was the gun show any good? The last three I have gone to here have been so poor I didn't even consider going to this one. Did I miss some good stuff? Jerry
 
PreserveFreedom, that's another thing I have trouble with. In Oklahoma, I've never showed an ID to buy ammo, or books, or anything except the actual firearm.

You all need to move down here. We can start in the middle of the country and work our way out!

I posted another thread where I told of going into a gun shop last Saturday and walked out with my new Kimber in 15 minutes. NICS check and all. I'm surprised I haven't gotten any hate mail yet. :D

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"Charlton Heston is my President"

Danny45
NRA, NAHC, Buckmasters
 
The Illinois communistnazis (politicians, media, and cops) are hard at work, I see.

The Locomotives Continue Racing Toward each Other.

J.B.
 
I certainly loved visiting Tulsa Danny45
(except for that one elitist officer)
You guys have some incredible gun shows.I guess Im getting off topic but someone mentioned while I was down their that theirs also a good bit of kkk-racist activity is that mostly rare or do you care to say.
On the gunshow sting all of you should be getting the KABA alerts so you get such news right away you can subscribe at www.keepandbeararms.org
As soon as its available in my area Ill be using it as my home dial up service and canceling AOL.
Arrogant Obnoxious Liberals---that ofcourse referring to some of the upper management with the very anti-gun attitude not the average worker.
On guns were doing pretty well here in TN
weve even formed a state gun lobby a little more agressive than the NRA to get things not just slowed but going in the right direction.
But....our gun shows dont compare to OK's.

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liberty for security deserve neither"
 
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