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357 & 40 are the same also! Really!
but in comparing the 9mm magazine on the left to the .40 S&W magazine on the right, there is very little dimensional difference and what little, if any, difference in width could be accommodated by a larger opening of the magwell at the bottom of the grip. There is really very little difference in the mags at all except the slight difference to the taper you mentioned along with the .40 magazine having the plastic base to make it a 10 rounder.
So now you are changing your story? If you would bother to read my posts you will find that I always referred to a wider magazine well on the .40 frame - never the grip frame, because I know the external dimensions did not change. You on the other hand explicitly stated the mag well and mags did not change.The only real difference are that the magazines feed lips were widened for the larger diameter case of the .40 S&W.
The original P-229 did not have an enlarged grip/magwell for the larger diameter .40 S&W cartridge and that's what limited it's cartridge capacity
The difference is about .055", .805" for the P228 mag, and .860" for the .40 mag - enough difference that the .40 mag can not be inserted into the P228 mag well.There is really very little difference in the mags at all except the slight difference to the taper you mentioned along with the .40 magazine having the plastic base to make it a 10 rounder.
I am speculating here, which you seem to do a lot of, but because the P228 grip is shorter than the P226 one, Sig had to widen the mag well, and the mag, to get a sufficient number of rounds. A 9mm P226 mag holds 15rds while the .40 holds 12 rds. A P228 9mm mag holds 13 rds so by extrapolation the .40 P229 mag would hold only maybe 10rds without widening the mag. Instead it holds 12 .40 rounds because of the wider bottom.So if no modification to the grip was needed for the P226 to accept .40 S&W, why would there have been a need to enlarge the grip of the P228?
Read my posts. I NEVER said the grip changed because I KNOW it didn't. The external dimensions are the same. It is just the internal magazine well that was widened.but I just don't get how you'd think the whole grip would have changed just because of a magazine that at best might be 1mm wider.
357 & 40 are the same also! Really!
So that you can physically see that the P228/P229 mag on the left that you had a link to (which you correctly identified as being identical) are different from the .40/.357 P229 mags, an example of which is on the right. I am sorry if you were offended. That was meant as a suggestion, not a command.wgsigs "See my post with the pictures"
Why!
So now you are changing your story? If you would bother to read my posts you will find that I always referred to a wider magazine well on the .40 frame - never the grip frame, because I know the external dimensions did not change. You on the other hand explicitly stated the mag well and mags did not change.
The only real difference are that the magazines feed lips were widened for the larger diameter case of the .40 S&W.
Pilot, that's right. Sigs are not for everybody. How else do you explain all of those thousands and thousands of Glock things out there. I love the balance of my P228 and how feels and handles, but truthfully, I shoot my P226 better and more accurately.
This is an old thread, BUT ..... my daughter qualified at The United States Naval Academy with the M11-a1, during plebe summer in 2014 ..... and again in 2016. She's been told many times that the m11-a1 is the issue sidearm for pilots in the Fleet ....She graduates in May and will go on to flight school in the fall ...... now maybe she has been fed an enduring rumor for 4 years and this is not so ..... or maybe wgsigs has gotten hold of an enduring rumor .... we'll know for certain in a year or so when she hits the Fleet.Sig is not producing the P228 anymore. They are producing the M11-A1 which is nothing more than a Cohen invented model which is really just a non railed P229 with different slide serrations. They claim its just like the one used by the military. The facts are that no govt agency uses this configuration.
I believe you have me confused with WVsig since you quoted his post.This is an old thread, BUT ..... my daughter qualified at The United States Naval Academy with the M11-a1, during plebe summer in 2014 ..... and again in 2016. She's been told many times that the m11-a1 is the issue sidearm for pilots in the Fleet ....She graduates in May and will go on to flight school in the fall ...... now maybe she has been fed an enduring rumor for 4 years and this is not so ..... or maybe wgsigs has gotten hold of an enduring rumor .... we'll know for certain in a year or so when she hits the Fleet.