In The Ten Ring
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I've been rather intrigued by most of these replies and I have to admit these weren't the replies I was expecting. That's fine, I post because I want discussion.....this isn't Facebook where we just delete replies we don't like then unfriend and block everyone that made those.
I also guess by now it's safe for me to comment on this myself.....often when I add to threads I have started it tends to kill the thread but maybe it'll spark more discussion.
Had that been me, I know my response would have been different, but I've carried a gun for almost half my life now and I've worked a few "stop and rob" jobs....the last stop and rob I worked at I developed a mental set of "rules of engagement" so I wouldn't have to figure it out when there wasn't time to do so. My rules covered this robbery here.
Robbery attempt with knife: I'd step back from counter, level primary .38 at chest, demand knife to be dropped, hands on head, face down on floor, etc. while I called police. It'd be nice to hold the bad guy for police to arrive but if he decided to run I wouldn't try to stop him. A knife is a lethal force threat since it can kill or maim for life.
Whether or not the guy is fired upon is completely up to him. If he jumped the counter, tried to throw the knife at me, or pulled a gun, it's a guarantee he would be shot. If he just stood there we would be at an impasse but it's one I am happy with...as my weak hand is my phone hand.
It helps that I live in both a Stand Your Ground state and a locale that is unfriendly to criminals. As for getting a new job, that's fine, as I can get a new job quicker than I can get a new body. If the company really cared about me (or her in this case) they'd provide her with armed security. They don't care about her life though and I believe the owner of that store carries a gun herself as I met her once and we had a chat about crime.
"But you shouldn't defend someone else's money!" I would not be defending anyone's money.....the knife threat was against the clerk's life, not the cash register.
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Now all of these replies has made me think more on this and since the knife isn't drawn pepper spray to face might be an option but pepper spray is going to force me out of the store also while he is still armed and he may not be affected by the pepper spray. Local police doctrine for lethal force threats is a pistol, not pepper spray. And yes, I carry pepper spray as it "varies my response options" and it does figure into those rules I mentioned above.
OK, so where am I going wrong? *See, trying to keep this going.
I also guess by now it's safe for me to comment on this myself.....often when I add to threads I have started it tends to kill the thread but maybe it'll spark more discussion.
Had that been me, I know my response would have been different, but I've carried a gun for almost half my life now and I've worked a few "stop and rob" jobs....the last stop and rob I worked at I developed a mental set of "rules of engagement" so I wouldn't have to figure it out when there wasn't time to do so. My rules covered this robbery here.
Robbery attempt with knife: I'd step back from counter, level primary .38 at chest, demand knife to be dropped, hands on head, face down on floor, etc. while I called police. It'd be nice to hold the bad guy for police to arrive but if he decided to run I wouldn't try to stop him. A knife is a lethal force threat since it can kill or maim for life.
Whether or not the guy is fired upon is completely up to him. If he jumped the counter, tried to throw the knife at me, or pulled a gun, it's a guarantee he would be shot. If he just stood there we would be at an impasse but it's one I am happy with...as my weak hand is my phone hand.
It helps that I live in both a Stand Your Ground state and a locale that is unfriendly to criminals. As for getting a new job, that's fine, as I can get a new job quicker than I can get a new body. If the company really cared about me (or her in this case) they'd provide her with armed security. They don't care about her life though and I believe the owner of that store carries a gun herself as I met her once and we had a chat about crime.
"But you shouldn't defend someone else's money!" I would not be defending anyone's money.....the knife threat was against the clerk's life, not the cash register.
***
Now all of these replies has made me think more on this and since the knife isn't drawn pepper spray to face might be an option but pepper spray is going to force me out of the store also while he is still armed and he may not be affected by the pepper spray. Local police doctrine for lethal force threats is a pistol, not pepper spray. And yes, I carry pepper spray as it "varies my response options" and it does figure into those rules I mentioned above.
OK, so where am I going wrong? *See, trying to keep this going.