Those of you wanting to buy a CZ

I've had plenty of extraction problems and what I'm guessing are magazine problems as well with my CZ75.

JRF is right. The design flaw is that you can't field strip the firing pin and extractor to clean them properly. CZ's manual recommends having a gun smith do this. So far I have not found an armorer's manual myself, but I would like to if this would solve my failure to feed and ejection problems.
 
ROB96:

That was the site I had seen earlier.

I went through the list and could find CZs listed only four times, and three of those with special police units. I may have missed a couple. Glocks and SIGs are easily found, though.

One possible military unit cited in the article was a Hungarian roving unit, which may have been military or state police. (The context made me think it was a federal SWAT-type team.)

The Israeli Army used CZ-clones for a while in some units but, again, they were not widely issued.

I've seen no evidence -- other than anecdotal -- to indicate that CZs are widely used in the military (or even in police units, for that matter).

The guns used by police and military units around the world are selected through POLITICAL PROCESSES having to do with favors and government expediencies, and where they're made. It seldom has anything to do with the actual practical value of the gun...
 
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I have a CZ75 "pre-B", 92 proofmark, bought new in '93 or '94 and shot some, but not a lot right away.
I campaigned it in IDPA SSP (Yes, I let the hammer down to get to a DA start. No ADs or even a slip in that direction.) in 1998, with lots of practice and every match I could get to. No misfunctions with any jacketed ammo, factory or handload.

I got it back out for a run at IDPA SSP Expert in 2001, plus IPSC Production. I started having Failures to Eject. I changed recoil springs, magazine springs, and cleaned under the extractor (Ick!). They continued. I tried S&B factory. It seemed ok in several trials so I took it to the Nationals. TWO FTEs in one major match! One didn't matter much, but the other was a spoiler.

I went back to 1911/CDP after that so my CZ sat on the shelf for a while, until I read this thread. I ordered (and paid for) an extractor and a couple of springs. I installed them the other day. The extractor looks a little more crisply machined, the new springs are substantially stronger. This is not a scientific experiment to isolate the variables, so I replaced extractor and spring both. I shot the gun this morning. It works fine. It will take a while to build up some stats and regain confidence, but I think I have got it. If I had to guess, I would say the spring is the key. I looked at a Witness that had a much stronger extractor spring than my old one, maybe even a bit stiffer than the new one.

Guns are machines, they take some maintenance.
 
Whether it is a design flaw or not, I have two CZ's, a 75B Mil and a 75 Compact. Both were purchased new in the box and neither of them has been able to fire 100 rounds without at least 2-3 malfunctions each, sometimes a failure to feed, othertimes the slide locks back when there are still rounds in the mag, sometimes failure to eject. I've tried about ten different kinds of ammo and it has made no difference, they all work equally poorly. Anybody want to buy a couple of paperweights? :barf:
 
jrf,

Been a while since I've seen anyone get this beaten up for a post here on TFL! Stick to your guns, I apreciate your post. Sometimes we assume that our guns are foolproof, and they aren't!
 
I am relatively new to guns and not interested, in the least, in "bashing" or "beating" anybody for their posts. Earlier on this year I read in one of the reviews published at the gallery of guns that CZ guns are the most underrated firearms in the U.S. of A. I will try to post a link if I can find it and if not am sure somebody else on this site read the article and they can help by posting the link.
 
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