This generation is lost

There are stupid people in every generation. I have seen all ages and types of people being pro and anti. What bothers me is when I try to warn people about the threats to the constitution, they say "oh that will never happen" and "maybe we do need more laws to prevent Columbine type incidents" and all kinds of other nonsense. Some people truly believe what the anti's tell them, others just don't care.

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I think there is hope yet. I recieved this in an email from one of my sons that attends UGA. Of course I realize this is self serving and bragging, but that has never stopped me before ;) ordo

Hey Dad,
I just got back from an informal discussion group kind of thing with my history professor at one of the coffee shops in town. There was a group of about 12 people from the class that showed up, it was quite interesting. You would like this guy. He's a staunch Republican/Libertarian from Western Pennsylvania. We talked about history for awhile, and then started talking about the election. When the issue of gun control came up my professor exclaimed "I Love Guns!!!"..."Charlton Heston is my Hero"..."The NRA is great!"... and on and on and on. He also said that he would vote libertarian, but there are certain things that need gov't control. Listening to him talk was just like listening to you, it was uncanny how much your views were identical. Anyway, this fueled some interesting debate w/ some Liberals in attendance. It was very interesting. On another note, I am still looking around for a ride home this weekend, so I will let you know by Thursday if I will need a ride.
Talk to you later.
Phillip
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob Locke:
I'm 31. You'll be hard-pressed to find someone more pro-gun than I am. There are some who are AS pro-gun, but you'd have to favor nukes and germ warfare devices in civilian hands to be to the right of me on that issue.
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You don't favor personal nukes and bio-weapons? COMMIE!!!! ( ;) :p ;)

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I'm 26, I don't know what they consider my generation, I have a few ideas but none are permissable here. Not only has my generation lost most of it's scrupples when it comes to governments rolls, it's lost it's work ethic, it's honesty, it's integrity, and it's values. I consider myself in a seperate sub-generation of misfits to the rest of society. I fall in the group that legislators hate because I don't want their free hand-out programs, I don't want their protection of me, and I don't want them in my life.

What I have begun to see is a whole culture of others just like me popping up and it does a heart good. My brother is 21, his friends far and away didn't buy into the anti-rights stories. They haven't asked the government to give them anything, and come Nov. 7th they are going to vote for the candidate they most feel backs their rights.

It's a strange world anymore, but in the last few years I have seen a growing distrust of government and control freaks in general by the 18-21 year olds. I think it is good, sometimes I think the strict discipline we try to enforce in schools is backfiring on us and helping out the antis. They turn the kids into little brainless robots that do whatever they are told. I was raised to question authority, but to do it with a polite attitude at all times and respect. I think it may be a thing we should all foster in our children.

Mine is barely 8months old right now and I can assure you she will be told to question all.

enough ranting.



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Hmm. Looks like a bunch of people ready to read a few good books on this subject...

13th Gen, and Generations, both by William Strauss and Neil Howe demonstrate, through historical modeling how, in more ways than you would believe possible, the "X" Gen is of the same historical/generational paradigm as the Cavalier Generation of the Colonial Cycle (1584-1700), Liberty Generation of the Founders Revolutionary Cycle (1701-1791), the Gilded of the Civil War Cycle (1792-1859), and the Lost of the Great Power Cycle (1860-1942). Each 80 yr cycle (+/-) shows sociodynamically consistant generational/parenting paradigms.

All this from 2 acknowledged Boomers examinimg their navels looking for some historical meaning to their own lives.

The upshot is - Boomer style generations screw everything up and the following generation fixes it... and it's been that way for 400+ years.
 
I am 32 years old, and personal experience has taught me that, while a narrow majority of people my age thing government programs solve problem, a large minority still question authority.

I have found that my grandparents generation (those who were adults during WWII whether directly in the war effort, or only in war industry) typically go along with the sentiment of 'there outta be a law.' However, if you frame the debate in such a way to point out a government's action as threatening the Bill of Rights they tend to sit up and take notice much more readily than those near or younger than myself. I have converted many of my elders to oppose the prohibition in this way. Some of them just need to be reminded what 'prohibition' was and what is going on today.

Those my age and younger may not remember the great war, but they are still rebelious enough to consider another way of doing things. You tell them that their body is theirs and no one should tell them what to do with it and young folks go: yeah man!

It's those damn baby-boomers that are in control now, and they will force us all to be peace loving hippies whether we want to or not. Sometimes it seems that no reduction in risk is too small a benefit to be ignored, despise the cost.
 
I'm 33... never considered myself a Gen-X'er. Most people that meet me through BBSes (like this one :^) figure I'm much older (later 40s / early 50s), and when they meet me in person they think I'm in my early 20s (I do look quite a bit younger than I really am).

The average age of my friends is around 45 and includes quite a few WWII vets. My best man at my wedding is my father's age (and has a daughter my age). He tells me that I single-handedly restored his faith in my generation. :)

My wife and sister in law, on the other hand, are definitely Gen-X'ers. Both are of a decidedly liberal bent (their father was a school teacher / principal) and my wife regurgitates much of the Dem's tripe. Funny thing, though, if you ask her an opinion on a particular topic, and ask her to explain her rational, she gets herself confused and starts sounding like a conservative. :)

To wit: my wife doesn't like guns, won't go shooting with me, and didn't like the idea of me carrying -- until this past Friday night. Her sister was supposed to come up to visit, was expected at 9pm, and by 10pm hadn't arrived or called. Calls to her cell phone went unanswered; calls to her house were first answered by a man who verified the phone number but said that there was "..nobody here by that name..." and then by her answering machine.

At this point the wife is frantic, and asks me to drive down there to found out what's going on. And to my surprise, she says, "...and bring your gun!"


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delivered 230gr at a time.
 
Aren't Gen-Xers supposed to be in their 20's? I dunno. I'm 18 and defibatly pro gun. I have many, and will never give them up. I hunt alot, and basically am all for the cause. Yeah, alot of younger people are getting sucked into all this guns are bad BS. because that's all they ever here or see. Unless they come from a gun family, or hunting family, and have known it since they were young, they just understand. When ever some trdgedy happns and some nut goes off his rocker, klinton get up on the podium and calls for more laws. I'm like WTF retard, enforce the ones you got!! Anyways, the NRA needs to make commercials stressing gun safety, and police neglegence towards violence, and the leaniency of the penalties we have. They need to run them after very tradgedy to conteract the attacks we suffer from the anti-gun movement, and maybe then the younger gen will see that it ain't guns that are doing this. It's ciminals.
 
"Gen X" is loosely defined as those born between 1962 and 1982.

Like I said - "13th Gen" (small book) & "Generations" (Big book) are MUST READS.

Entertaining and enlightening. Gives some cause to hope for America too.

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I'm 19, and I try to talk about guns and the Constitution as much as I can. Some people will listen. One of my friends has started to show an interest in firearms. We must spread what we know to as many people as possible.

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