Thinking of buying a .40

Chalk another vote up for the Glock 27 for the following reasons:

1. He did not note concealability, but why not have it there if you want it?

2. The G27 will take full sixe glock magazines - add a grip extension and you have roughly the same dimensions the medium size Glocks.

3. The G27 is *really* accurate. Why get a bigger pistol when a smaller one will do the same job?

In sum, the 27 has ALL of the functionality of the larger Glocks with the added benefit of a smaller package should you want it.

The only caveat would be if the 27 does not feel right in your hand, either with the regular 9 round mag (no pinkie), the 9 round with the pinkie extension or +1 extention, or the full size mag with the grip extension.

Personally, I love my G27. If I could only have one pistol, this would be it!



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My first handgun was a Glock 22... I love it. Very accurate, and VERY simple. I couldn't imagine trying to take down a 1911 in the dark, the Glock is a sinch. My girlfriend shoots my G22 and loves it too, although she wants a G23 of her own as it fits her hands better.

You can't go wrong with Glock. There are plenty of good guns out there, just try some out and aboce all go with what works for YOU!
 
I must second the look at the H&K USP. It is a very finely made gun. My local gunstore owner says that he sells more Glocks than anything else (So Cal) becasue of "bang for the buck" so if you are on a little bit of a budget its an excellent way to go.

However, if you are looking for a little bit more rugged pistol with more safety decocker options, a tactical equipment rail, the ability to carry cocked and locked, DA and SA, an excellent finish and a mud-friendly design, the USP is VERY hard to beat. It also uses a dual spring recoil reduction system that makes a .45 shoot softer than a .40 (IMHO).

Whichever way you go, have fun looking! :]

J.T.

As usual, FWIW, IMHO, YMMV and all that
 
I must second the look at the H&K USP. It is a very finely made gun. My local gunstore owner says that he sells more Glocks than anything else (So Cal) becasue of "bang for the buck" so if you are on a little bit of a budget its an excellent way to go.

However, if you are looking for a little bit more rugged pistol with more safety decocker options, a tactical equipment rail, the ability to carry cocked and locked, DA and SA, an excellent finish and a mud-friendly design, the USP is VERY hard to beat. It also uses a dual spring recoil reduction system that makes a .45 shoot softer than a .40 (IMHO).

Whichever way you go, have fun looking! :]

J.T.

As usual, FWIW, IMHO, YMMV and all that
 
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like I have some more homework to do. I'll be sure to let you all know what I buy when the time comes!

Thanks again,
Evan
 
Don't care for the 40 cartridge, hate Glocks, but your choice of the M35 is perfect.

They are a very good gun.

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No doubt about it, buy the Glock of your choice. If we can still own guns when your great grandkids are grown, the Glock will still be working, its as close to a forever gun as you can buy.

7th... Glock LEO Armorer

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By the way J.T. King: Who ever told you that the H$K USP is more durable than a Glock doesn't know much about guns and is trying to sell you a bill of goods. If they are so durable why are they having problems breaking firing pins? Some of my Officers carry them and have had problems with them.

7th

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I went through a similar process. The pistol that has everything I want (proven field record, light weight, simple mechanism, easy to care for, rust resistance, and availability of parts, interchangeability of barrels)is the Glock 23.

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RE: USP firing pins

Let's see - Broken firing pins, or prevalent kB's! I know which one I'd pick - HK every time. At least you can fix a firing pin - you can't get a new hand. Plenty of Law Enforcement officers can testify about kBs....

Besides, the HK's solidly performed in every torture test out there - the USP .40 was designed around the .40 cartridge and downgraded to 9mm, instead of adapted from 9 for .40...

We could go on and on but everyone has their favorites and there's no use arguing back and forth.

I'd suggest seeing which feels better in your hand - the USP or the Glock, and then get the one you feel is more comfortable. They both are solid performers.

Spark

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Spark,

I agree with you regarding Glock kb's and USP firing pins. I currently own an H&K USP45F and a MK23, so as you can see I do rather like my H&K's. But, I did have my USP's firing pin break during dry fire practice. Now granted I was doing extremely intensive dry fire drills which included rapid fire as well as slow fire, but I was still pretty surprised by the fact that it broke. I have since had no problems with it the ensuing 10,000 rounds that it has put down range during tactical training and target practice. If I do get a glock in .40 cal, I will get a replacement barrel that has a fully supported chamber. That way I won't have to worry about kb's. The one thing I will say about Glocks and kb's is that nearly everyone that I have heard of has been due to someone using reloads with a double charge or some bad factory ammo. I don't know how well any handgun will hold up to double charges. Some better than others I suspect. Anyway, looks like I'm rambling. Just wanted to say to all thanks for the responses.

Thanks all,
Evan
 
I'd suggest using a snap-cap for dry-fire practice as a general rule. No need to subject the weapon to abuse it wasn't designed for...Glocks are an exception, of course. Although it's not a bad idea anyway.

- gabe
 
I own serveral .40's, but my two favorites are my Beretta 96, and my Glock 22. Both shoot great, but the Glock might fit your hand alittle better.

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I keep a Glock 23 at home for defense, because I like the harder hitting round, but it does kick a good bit more than my Glock 17 in 9 mm or my revolvers. I really have to squeeze down hard with the left hand to be accurate at all past 15 yards.
 
longer barrels give you: (1) greater bullet velocity / stopping power, (2) greater sight radius, (3) less recoil / quicker follow-up shots, (4) less muzzle blast / damage to your ears. the G35 maximizes all these, but minimizes concealability.

for defensive use, you might want to install a trigger connector that requires a heavier pull than the stock 3.5 lb connector.
 
Kb's have been documented in USPs as well, despite the fully supported chamber. Check out Glocktalk and search for Kb's. You'll most likely find one or two stories about the same Kb, and about a 100 or so stories about Glocks not Kbing. Also the Glock is designed to blow the mag out of the mag well and not blow up into the shooter's face should a Kb ever occur. We shooters are holding explosives in our hands after all.

The USP is also a great gun by the way. I've been told that you get the accuracy of a Sig with the durability of a Glock. :)

Sorry for the long post.
 
I did not have any regretts getting my Beretta 96, Glock 22 and 23, or Browning Hi-Power in .40. You can't go wrong with any of them.

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If you are not going for a CCW gun, then I would get the full sized 22 or maybe the 23, both are great guns.

7th

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I'm real happy with my Beretta 96 Brigadier. The craftsmanship in this gun is simply amazing. It has never failed me and is very accurate. The fingergroove grip may be a bit big if you have small-ish hands but it fits me well.
 
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