Thinking about a compact double stack

My Taurus PT111 G2 has been my daily carry for the past 2 years, or so. It hits the sweet spot for me between too small and not small enough; I can just get a full grip with my XL meathooks, and it carries nicely without printing. 12+1 is a decent capacity, and mine has been completely reliable. The only thing that I have ever disliked about it is that there is no version without a manual safety.
The price is also a great benefit.
 
I like rifles. I like shotguns. I like handguns. If someone wants to buy one, great, more power to them. However, just because someone sees some news stories about something doesn't mean it is "on the rise" or statistically significant. Just sayin.
 
Great suggestions in the above...Here's our take on CC's of that size, and some of the considerations in carrying them.

As far as accuracy is concerned, when compared to groups of controlled pairs I've shot with my wife's Smith 637 with ~2" bbl., the add'l length of our Sig M11 and G23 doubles the effective range for similar groups. I.E.: I get ~2-3" gps with the Smith snubbie at 7-10 yds with a modified Weaver stance, and just about double that with our compacts. With the Smith Bodyguard 380 that we carry on occasion, the effective range for those same groups is 3-5 yds, again, shooting 'controlled pairs'.

When a compact size is doable for us, my wife's G23 fills the bill for her and I like my Sig M11-A1 (P229). I weighed the M11 last night and got 29.6 oz. with an empty mag and the G23 comes in at 23.8 oz., just enough to be noticed on the belt, and that's without a loaded magazine. The magazine add's another 9 oz.!

Too, either of these pistols and spare mags plus holsters and carriers for each adds as additional 4" to my hip width, (1-3/4" for a single mag carrier & just over 2" for a leather OWB; both close fitting). Carrying that extra mag makes OWB or for that matter IWB carry, just that more difficult. The 4" extra body width was a bit of a surprise when I measured it this am.

That said, either of us successfully carries either gun (tho my wife has never carried an extra mag unless attending a training course (Front Sight in NV)). Loose clothing works well but the bulk on the hips is evident (general printing) if you look closely.

Just some thoughts on the subject, YMMV, BTW, if you commit to carrying a compact, the Glock 23 or 19 is a hellofa choice if you do some work on the trigger, get tritium night sights, and you're happy with the grip size. Rod
 
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I elected to go with the M&P 9c and I haven't regretted the decision. I have Apex DCAEK in mine and I love it.


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#21 above said to get a Glock 26 and noted the 12 round capacity with the extended mag. Alas the CZ RAMI holds 14+1 with an extended mag and, to many folks surprise, is nearly identical to the 26 in size. I've had both. The Rami is the only pistol that will never be sold or traded by me. All other pistols have been subject to getting moved, even the CZ PCR D.
 
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