They're heeeerre!

I remebered something I read from the book "No Heroes", a book by the FBI agent that founded the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team (good book).

Towards the end of the book he proposed that it was really not the organized militias that concerned him (although we are alluding to Islamic Terrorists here, but the "scary militias" of the early nineties is an apt comparison) it was the Timothy McVieghs, the loners, the fringe elements, the non-traceable, non-joiners, that would be unpredictiable and uncontrolled by the larger movements.

Just a thought.
 
You would think if a group was going to train... soldiers

have a firing range and use it.... they would choose two things... more than 70 acres and not place it in New York State where the last I heard, evil black assault rifles and high capacity mags. were banned.
 
Is there any doubt that if they were Branch Davidians that the place would be in flames?

That's what happened last time.
 
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Lat/Long coordinates of site:

22 73' 40" N / 74 91' 60" W

Hancock, NY.

Funny... GoogleEarth is INCREDIBLY fuzzy over the whole area.

What a shame.
 
Also, when you try to find "International Quranic Open University" with the "find businesses" feature of GoogleEarth, it gets lost.

Must not be an accredited institution.:p
 
should we add plagiarist to his title as investigator?
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Should plagiarism be allowed to overshadow what was found? Even the original author, if what is posted is true, doesn't debate the veracity of the information. Short of an attempt to side-track the thread, does this have any real value?

have a firing range and use it.... they would choose two things... more than 70 acres and not place it in New York State where the last I heard, evil black assault rifles and high capacity mags. were banned.
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I believe that you'll find the "evil assault rifle bans" are localities, and not state law. The ban on high cap magazines? Read it yourself.

It is a class D felony to manufacture, transport, dispose of, or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device, which N.Y. Penal Law § 265.00(23) defines as "a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition." Section 265.02.
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It would appear that magazines manufactured Before 9/13/94 are legal. This quote was taken from Packing.org

It would seem that we either expect these guys to be idiots, or so smart that they can think rings around everyone else, and are hiding in plain sight. Myself. I think that they are typical of the Fundamentalist mind-set. They are sure of their ability to exist, based on being plainly in sight, and the United States being so PC that nobody will bother them. After all "Allah will blind the infidels". From the comments here, they might be right.
 
azredhawk44

Try http://www.terrafly.com and see what you get. You have to be patient as it is slow but the detail is amazing.

The school is listed on terrafly HERE . It says the school is located 5.4 mi NW of Hancock on Rd1 Box 28j Roods Creek Rd.

The decimal Lat and Lon are 42.015259 -75.353004

I love terrafly!
 
Jr47, thanks for the link to the NY code...

I'm planning to drive through New York state (as fast as is legal) in August and need to figure out what is legal to unload and lock in the trunk while I pass through. Spending no money or time there if possible.

I'm still not sure about a carbine rifle with a detachable magazine and folding stock. Obviously the magazine can't hold more than 10 rounds but I wonder about a folding stock?

I still say these are just your basic religious fanatics who probably want to be left alone to worship in their own way. No doubt there are probably some fringe radicals living there too but I suspect it's a place that's being watched pretty good...
 
There is a federal law that allows peaceful travel with a firearm even in locales which restrict firearms. I cannot come up with the cite off the top of my head -- something like 926a or whatever -- but I bet someone here could. I believe it was part of the Firearm Owners Protection Act.

The firearm has to be secured and not within the reach of the driver as I recall. You might want to carry a copy of the code with you if you can.
 
Actually, if the magazines were manufactured before September of 1993, they are grandfathered, at least to my reading. It's only the City of New York, and the surrounding counties, infected by liberal apathy, that have additional restrictions on their books. New York is NOT a state pre-emption entity.:)


Kool-Aid? Jonestown Tea? One could only hope.:D
 
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