There should be a federal office of "Gun Welfare"

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Playboypenguin

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Similar to "Child Welfare" offices. Just so gun owners could report fellow gun owners for neglect or mistreatment of fine firearms.

I just picked up my new-to-me Sig P232 and I was appalled by how dirty it was inside. I knew by looking in it at the gunshop that it was dirty, but once I got it home I could see that it looked like it had never been cleaned in it's life. I doubt it has ever even been torn down. It took me over an hour just to get it cleaned down to the metal. It looked like the previous owner had used motor oil as lube.

To add insult to injury, the previous owner had taken white paint and crudely painted over the red dot sights. From the looks of it he used a 4" house brush to do it too.

I have done all I can physically for the poor little gun and have restored it to it's former glory. You really do not appreciate how beautiful a firearm these guns are until you hold them and disassemble them. Now the real work begins by restoring it's sense of self worth by taking it to the range as often as possible and treating it with the respect it deserves by giving it routine cleanings and a nice comfortable shelf in my gunsafe.

There really should be an office of gun welfare so that gun owners like the one that sullied this poor gun could be reported. Maybe they could be forced to take classes on proper gun care and not be allowed to own anything other than Glocks until they can prove they are rehabilitated. :)
 
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Dirty gun's are like little kids they always get to play.NO pretty little girls in my gun safe .they all work .if you really do a perfect clean on your guns .do you know if they work.
 
Look at it this way PBP, now you get a chance to do a video on restoring a P232.

Enjoy your new Sig.
 
Probably belonged to a gang member and was used in drive by's and stuff. Can you imagine a gangsta going into a store and buying a deluxe cased gun cleaning kit? I bet they just run em till they quit and then trade em off for a couple bags of crack or something.
 
Or, maybe there's another angle to take--
Perhaps the previous owner never once field stripped it and cleaned it. This is not great, but if it's never been cleaned, then it's never been OVER-ZEALOUSLY cleaned. And if it's never been taken down, it's likely never been goofed with my some ham-fisted goober with make-shift tools.

A good quality firearm like a Sig probably won't be any worse for wear just because someone didn't clean it. Maybe the caked on powder residue will have protected the innards.
 
The previous gun owners incompetence saved you several hundred dollars likely.

Nothing to complain about there.

The great thing is that you know how to restore that gun to it's original luster and rub it right in the face of the idiot that just obliterated the resale value of the thing.

Some people don't care about maintaining things and they do us that buy used handguns great favors every time the gun just jams up from gunk.

I say to them,"Great job,keep up the good work!" :D
 
I think there should be a "Gun Welfare" place, too, with assistance for our rights per the 2nd Amendment and in spirit with other welfare programs currently in place. Should someone make less than the current poverty level, that person should be provided a gun by the State to be sure each person is able to have their 2nd Amendment right much like a defense attorney if charged in a crime and taken to court so that the 5th amendment (or to assist with any other amendment violation in the gathering of evidence) is ensured. I would also make it akin to public schools ensuring the opportunity to utilize the 1st amendment, or the lack of taxation on churches as well.

What does everyone else think of that?
 
I hope you got that Sig 232 at a good price. All the work you put into it. I know you enjoyed going over it and cleanin and lubing every thing up to "Your" specs. now its happy your happy now go shoot that little jewel of a semi automatic. I love my sig 230 I have one in 380 and anothe in 32acp.
 
now its happy your happy now go shoot that little jewel of a semi automatic
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If the weather breaks here by tomorrow, I plan on taking it out and putting a hundred rounds each through it and my PPK in a head-to-head shoot out. I want to see how they stack up against each other. :)
What does everyone else think of that?
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I think that is way too serious a topic for such a light hearted thread. Go start your own thread. :D
 
Would this require some Fed to visit my house and make sure my guns are being treated well? Maybe put them in foster care if I forget to clean them right after a range session? It's just wrong ...
 
Would this require some Fed to visit my house and make sure my guns are being treated well? Maybe put them in foster care if I forget to clean them right after a range session? It's just wrong ...
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We are doing it for the children...err...guns. Monsters that neglect their guns get what they deserve. :D ;) :)
 
No pictures? Come on! You know the rules... No pictures, it didn't happen!
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It is still saddled with the hideous rubber grips at the moment. I should have my nice Nil wood grips by the end of the week. I cannot possibly take pics of it until then. :)
 
I just picked up a used Steyr M40-A1 and to my horror it was dirty. All it need was some tender loving care. Could the welfare office be sorta like a methadone clinic. When one of my firearms is broken will they give me another
 
I'm one of the abusive gun-dads.

Fact is that my most used guns are over used and under cleaned. I frequently use the Rem-Oil saturation and air blast method of cleaning the actions. The barrels are frequently "swabbed" with fresh bullets run through the bores.

I've gotta say that the method has served me pretty well, and I don't often have a problem with function or accuracy. The shame factor---I'm learning to live with. :o jd
 
I like the humor in the post but in all honestly I would love an office like this to actually report the idiots who show up to the range and endanger everyone else there. I know its our right as Americans to own guns, and I love it, but some people are just simply not smart enough to own one, same with voting. I feel like there should be a written test involved to qualify.:rolleyes: It makes me so angry seeing people who are careless with firearms, I wish there was something more that we could do. They don't really do anything illegal so can't really call the cops, when they show up to my public range I just pack up and live to shoot another day, would rather not risk it.
 
I'm all for the idea....IF it wasn't connected with any govt.

Because they can screw up even the best of ideas. And count on it, they would.

I operate on a different theory, when it comes to cleaning. I rarely clean my guns. I do this on purpose. I do keep them from rusting, and clean the bores and lube them once in a while, but I like to let them get dirty and cruddy inside to see how long they will run before failing to work correctly.

Once symptoms of failure begin to show up (if they ever do), then I have a fair idea how much the gun will take in the nature of neglect. Then all I have to do is keep them cleaned better than that, and I can be reasonably assured they will run properly.

Naturely, I don't do this "test" with the in use carry gun, but I do tend to do it before I feel comfortable carrying the gun.

Ok, I'm lazy, and came up with this theory to justify not doing my "chores" on a regular basis, but it does work. Sort of. I have several guns not detail cleaned for years without any functional problems.

Most of the time, all the detail stripping, cleaning, and reassembly really does is add to the wear rate of the gun parts. Are there times when it should be done? Certainly. Does it need to be done after every shooting session? normally not (unless corrosive ammo is used, and then complete detail stripping still may not be needed).

Way more guns are worn out/broken/damaged by being constantly taken apart and put back together than die from "natural causes".

Guns designed for military service have for generations, been designed to accept constant disassembly and cleaning (done in the field, by soldiers with what ever tools are available), but "civilian" guns often are not.
 
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