The war continues. UK airline bomb plot foiled!
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Yes - but the really good news is that after the recent BP mess in Alaska - which caused oil prices to rise - today they are falling on reduced demand of jet fuel. It sure is convenient.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4107689.html
Oil Prices Drop Almost $1 a Barrel
LONDON — Crude oil prices fell nearly $1 a barrel Thursday when thwarted attacks on airplanes led many carriers to cancel flights, which could mean lower demand for jet fuel and dented consumer confidence.
Light, sweet crude for September delivery dropped 98 cents to $75.37 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by midday in Europe. September Brent crude futures on London's ICE Futures fell 99 cents to $76.29 a barrel.
"The price fall this morning is on the back of the airline bomb plot which is negative jet demand and consumer confidence," said Olivier Jakob at Petromatrix.
On Thursday, British authorities said they had stopped a terrorist plot to blow up several aircraft in flight between the United States and the United Kingdom.
European carriers canceled flights to Britain, where airports were experiencing massive delays. There were delays in the U.S., too, as passengers endured long waits because of the heightened security.
Gasoline futures dropped more than 5 cents to $2.1170 a gallon, while heating oil futures fell 3 cents to $2.0750 a gallon. Natural gas futures gained 15 cents to $7.806 per 1,000 cubic feet.
But traders felt that because the attack was foiled, it would mute the effect on prices. The underlying sentiment is for higher prices focused on lower gasoline inventories, geopolitical worries and production cuts from a pipeline shutdown in Alaska and unrest in Nigeria.
In Nigeria, officials said gunmen seized two foreign oil workers Thursday in the surge of violence targeting the petroleum industry in Africa's oil giant.
Southern Nigeria, where most of the nation's crude is pumped, has seen violence against the petroleum industry rising. The kidnappings and attacks have forced a nearly 20 percent reduction of Nigeria's usual 2.5 million barrel daily production.
Prices also continue to be inflated by the standoff between the United Nations and Iran over the nuclear program of the No. 2 oil producer in OPEC, as well as fighting in the Middle East between Israel and Hezbollah, which threatens to disrupt production in the region.
On Wednesday the U.S. government reported drops in crude, gasoline and distillate fuel inventories _ aggravating concerns about a supply shortage from the shutdown of a major pipeline in Alaska.
U.S. crude inventories fell 1.1 million barrels to 332.6 million barrels last week, the Energy Information Administration said, still more than 4 percent above year-ago levels.
Gasoline inventories fell 3.2 million barrels to 207.7 million barrels _ less than 1 percent above last year's levels, and in the lower half of the average range for this time of year.
BP PLC is shutting down 400,000 barrels of daily oil production _ about two-thirds of which belongs to ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil Corp. _ at Prudhoe Bay in Alaska.
U.S. crude inventories are near five-year highs, but the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries' spare capacity is tight _ about 1.1 million to 1.3 million barrels a day, mostly in Saudi Arabia, the EIA estimated Tuesday.
U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman had said extra supplies can replace oil lost from the Alaska shutdown, and that a complete shutdown might not be necessary.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4107689.html
Oil Prices Drop Almost $1 a Barrel
LONDON — Crude oil prices fell nearly $1 a barrel Thursday when thwarted attacks on airplanes led many carriers to cancel flights, which could mean lower demand for jet fuel and dented consumer confidence.
Light, sweet crude for September delivery dropped 98 cents to $75.37 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by midday in Europe. September Brent crude futures on London's ICE Futures fell 99 cents to $76.29 a barrel.
"The price fall this morning is on the back of the airline bomb plot which is negative jet demand and consumer confidence," said Olivier Jakob at Petromatrix.
On Thursday, British authorities said they had stopped a terrorist plot to blow up several aircraft in flight between the United States and the United Kingdom.
European carriers canceled flights to Britain, where airports were experiencing massive delays. There were delays in the U.S., too, as passengers endured long waits because of the heightened security.
Gasoline futures dropped more than 5 cents to $2.1170 a gallon, while heating oil futures fell 3 cents to $2.0750 a gallon. Natural gas futures gained 15 cents to $7.806 per 1,000 cubic feet.
But traders felt that because the attack was foiled, it would mute the effect on prices. The underlying sentiment is for higher prices focused on lower gasoline inventories, geopolitical worries and production cuts from a pipeline shutdown in Alaska and unrest in Nigeria.
In Nigeria, officials said gunmen seized two foreign oil workers Thursday in the surge of violence targeting the petroleum industry in Africa's oil giant.
Southern Nigeria, where most of the nation's crude is pumped, has seen violence against the petroleum industry rising. The kidnappings and attacks have forced a nearly 20 percent reduction of Nigeria's usual 2.5 million barrel daily production.
Prices also continue to be inflated by the standoff between the United Nations and Iran over the nuclear program of the No. 2 oil producer in OPEC, as well as fighting in the Middle East between Israel and Hezbollah, which threatens to disrupt production in the region.
On Wednesday the U.S. government reported drops in crude, gasoline and distillate fuel inventories _ aggravating concerns about a supply shortage from the shutdown of a major pipeline in Alaska.
U.S. crude inventories fell 1.1 million barrels to 332.6 million barrels last week, the Energy Information Administration said, still more than 4 percent above year-ago levels.
Gasoline inventories fell 3.2 million barrels to 207.7 million barrels _ less than 1 percent above last year's levels, and in the lower half of the average range for this time of year.
BP PLC is shutting down 400,000 barrels of daily oil production _ about two-thirds of which belongs to ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil Corp. _ at Prudhoe Bay in Alaska.
U.S. crude inventories are near five-year highs, but the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries' spare capacity is tight _ about 1.1 million to 1.3 million barrels a day, mostly in Saudi Arabia, the EIA estimated Tuesday.
U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman had said extra supplies can replace oil lost from the Alaska shutdown, and that a complete shutdown might not be necessary.
Mannlicher
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its interesting that none of the main media outlets, BBC, NY Times, Washington Post, LA times, mentioned the words 'muslim' or 'islamist' in their reportings on this today. Its almost like they are afraid to say who we are engaged with on this issue.
Marko Kloos
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That might be because the UK police hasn't even released the list of suspects' names yet, but we can just go ahead and shout "it's TeH mUsLims!!!"
It probably *was* radical Islamists, since that's the group that seems to have trouble with the "no explosives as carry-on" guideline, but I hardly think it's objectionable for the news outlets to refrain on pegging their religion before we even have ID of the suspects.
It probably *was* radical Islamists, since that's the group that seems to have trouble with the "no explosives as carry-on" guideline, but I hardly think it's objectionable for the news outlets to refrain on pegging their religion before we even have ID of the suspects.
Nope. Looks like Bush got it right and called them "islamic fascists".
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207710,00.html
Bush Praises Effort to Thwart Terror Plot
WASHINGTON — President Bush on Thursday praised the coordinated government efforts to stop a terror plot to blow up airline flights from the United Kingdom to the United States, and said American flyers will be inconvenienced for a while in order for officials to keep them safe.
"The recent arrests that our fellow citizens are now learning about are a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation," Bush said on a tarmac in Green Bay, Wis., before delivering a speech on the economy.
"Cooperation on this venture was excellent, the cooperation between U.K. and U.S. authorities and officials was solid, and the cooperation among agencies within our government was excellent," Bush said.
But even with the successful operation, the president said, "Obviously we still aren't completely safe, because there are people that still plot and people who want to harm us for what we believe in. It is a mistake to believe there is no threat to the United States of America."
The White House called the plot to blow up commercial flights in mid-air a "serious threat" to the United States and United Kingdom. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair spoke overnight and last weekend as British intelligence discovered the scheme, which they'd been investigating for months, was imminent, Bush spokesman Tony Snow said. The two held phone calls while Blair is vacationing in the Caribbean and Bush is staying at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.
Watch the skeptics(Democrats)show their true colors-----if they didn't find out this plot then the President would have been asleep at the wheel.
Now that it was found out, I've already seen some people saying it is simply a scare tactic to take the news away from elsewhere. Some have even intimated that it is a coincidence that this happened right after Liberman lost!
They want to be able to criticize either way
Now that it was found out, I've already seen some people saying it is simply a scare tactic to take the news away from elsewhere. Some have even intimated that it is a coincidence that this happened right after Liberman lost!
They want to be able to criticize either wayOr is it more state sponsored terror designed to convince us the broad sweeping powers , spying and other controls systematically being put in place are working?
This foiled hiJacking is very similar to a little plot 10 years ago .
Part of Oplan Bojinka ... right down to the use of liquid explosive.
From Wiki ....
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Airline Bombing Plot
The bombs would have been timed before the operatives stepped off the planes. The aircraft would have blown up over the Pacific Ocean and the South China Sea almost simultaneously. If this plan worked, several thousand would have perished, and air travel would have been shut down worldwide for days, if not weeks. The U.S. government estimated the prospective death toll to be about 4,000 if the plot had been executed.
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The bomb
The "Mark II" "microbombs" had Casio digital watches as the timers, stabilizers that looked like cotton wool balls, and an undetectable nitroglycerin as the explosive. Other ingredients included glycerin, nitrate, sulfuric acid, and minute concentrations of nitrobenzene, silver azide (silver trinitride), and liquid acetone. Two 9-volt batteries in each bomb were used as a power source. The batteries would be connected to light bulb filaments that would detonate the bomb. Murad and Yousef wired an SCR as the switch to trigger the filaments to detonate the bomb. There was an external socket hidden when the wires were pushed under the watch base as the bomber would wear it. The alteration was so small that the watch could still be worn in a normal manner. [1] [13] [17]
Yousef got batteries past airport security during his December 11 test bombing of Philippine Airlines Flight 434 by hiding them in hollowed-out heels of his shoes. Yousef smuggled the nitroglycerin on board by putting it inside a contact lens solution bottle.
The density of the explosive cocktail would be about 1.3.
This foiled hiJacking is very similar to a little plot 10 years ago .
Part of Oplan Bojinka ... right down to the use of liquid explosive.
From Wiki ....
====================
Airline Bombing Plot
The bombs would have been timed before the operatives stepped off the planes. The aircraft would have blown up over the Pacific Ocean and the South China Sea almost simultaneously. If this plan worked, several thousand would have perished, and air travel would have been shut down worldwide for days, if not weeks. The U.S. government estimated the prospective death toll to be about 4,000 if the plot had been executed.
[edit]
The bomb
The "Mark II" "microbombs" had Casio digital watches as the timers, stabilizers that looked like cotton wool balls, and an undetectable nitroglycerin as the explosive. Other ingredients included glycerin, nitrate, sulfuric acid, and minute concentrations of nitrobenzene, silver azide (silver trinitride), and liquid acetone. Two 9-volt batteries in each bomb were used as a power source. The batteries would be connected to light bulb filaments that would detonate the bomb. Murad and Yousef wired an SCR as the switch to trigger the filaments to detonate the bomb. There was an external socket hidden when the wires were pushed under the watch base as the bomber would wear it. The alteration was so small that the watch could still be worn in a normal manner. [1] [13] [17]
Yousef got batteries past airport security during his December 11 test bombing of Philippine Airlines Flight 434 by hiding them in hollowed-out heels of his shoes. Yousef smuggled the nitroglycerin on board by putting it inside a contact lens solution bottle.
The density of the explosive cocktail would be about 1.3.
Mannlicher
New member
Lets see now
Redworm
What might be your reason to look askance at this info? Frankly, not all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, but most of the extremists and terrorists are muslims. I am perfectly willing to jump to the conclusion that these are IslamoKazies.
Redworm
well, they are muslims, mostly of Paki descent (or recent immigrants). The first tip off came from the Paki governnment. The news media in Europe is rife with reports to this effect.
What might be your reason to look askance at this info? Frankly, not all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, but most of the extremists and terrorists are muslims. I am perfectly willing to jump to the conclusion that these are IslamoKazies.
Not everyone in Pakistan is Muslim.Silver Bullet
New member
I think we'll see much more of this if the Appeasement Party takes "control".
DonR101395
New member
Uhhhh...deductive reasoning. The population in Pakistan is 96.28% muslim according to the Pakistani government and the 1.59% christian population hasn't been traveling the world blowing things up or the or the 1.6 hindu population.
But you are correct that not everyone in Pakistan is Muslim. I'm in Pakistan right now and not muslim.
Edit: According to the Brit government 89.2% of the Pakistani population is Muslim, 1.6% Christian, 2.8% no religion, 6.8% no preference stated
I'm calling false flag operation B-S on this one.Where are all the police news conferences?,the table in front of the podium displaying the evidence?,the parade of suspects on their way to jail?.This is nothing more than a government instigated B-S operation to keep the fear level up in the herd of shepple.Sorry,i'm not buying it.