The Ultimate Combat Shotgun - The AA-12...does any army now use it?

The AA12 seems to be the answer to a question no one in the real world is asking.

With one full mag, the weight approaches 15 lbs. That's the equivalent of an M4 and 100 rounds. My hunch is the M4 is a bit faster to handle also.

Much as I like shotguns, for the military a good rifle is almost always the better choice....
 
Doesn't the military have a buckshot round for those 40mm revolving grenade launchers? It'd make more sense than a 15+lb 12ga. shotgun...and you could use HE grenades for room-clearing..... :D
 
If anyone is interested, the AA 12 shotgun was featured on the show "locked 'n Loaded." It was the last shotgun featured on the epsiode "shotguns". Pretty cool!!!

-George
 
I dont see a purpose for it after talking with my buddy who served in Afghanistan and was injured and discharged, its "illegal" to intentionally kill with any shotgun over there so buying this beastly new toy would seem pointless. They are only used for breaching.
 
It will go the way of that weird South African double barrel (not a standard double barrel) gun that was so you could carry different rounds in each tube.

I think it appeals to TV shows and fan boys.

How about the guns from Aliens? Or are we a serious list? :barf:
 
kx592

Honestly, I doubt that the R.O.E. has gotten that bad. I know when I was in Iraq, after the transition of authority happened, we were supposed to exercise less lethal means if possible. Our less lethal means were shotguns with various rubber type ammo and "bean bags" and M203's with "nerf" rounds. I do not think that, if the situation called for it, that someone would get in trouble for use lethal force on a belligerent with a shotgun. Lethal force, regardless of weapon type is lethal...

Some of our guys only carried a shotgun and a pistol if they were assigned to carry less lethal means...
 
When we got here, at first they wouldn't issue 40mm rounds, then they took away the 320s (H&K made grenade launcher replacement for the 203). They never issued the shotguns out of the armory. Shotguns are specialty weapons for narrowly coonfined purposes. US strategy is to keep out of the enemy's range as much as possible. If anything the pressure is to increase range by adopting different loadings for the 5.56 or making greater use of designated marksmen. Shotguns have little or no use on todays battlfield.

Shotguns are great in video games though, and people whose "military experience" comes solely from games and movies will always think highly of them.
 
ISC

Where are you at/were at? Iraq or the Afghan? It doesn't make too much sense to try to keep distance and take away/not issue 203/320's... We were in Southern Baghdad and had them.
 
I don't see a reason to have one in War. I can see Swat using them easily.
If it were me in battle, I would have my Carbine, pistol and a sawed off 12g double barrel on my back, just-in-case.
 
thesheepdog

A double barrel is one of the most impractical shotguns to consider for combat.


Some of the Allied countries in the first World War had breach loaded shotguns while the U.S. used a pump action shotgun.
 
People tried to say the M16 didn't need to be cleaned either. That turned out reeeeaaalllll well... [/sarcasm]

I really don't believe that one bit.
 
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