Unlicensed Dremel
Moderator
The proper term is:
***HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE***
***HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE***
My rifles have not been used as weapons, any more than any knife, or blunt instrument, or flame producing article in my possession have been used as weapons, though they all have that potential.
Glenn E Meyer said:However, the blunt instrument, flame producing article and knife are not constitutionally protected for their role in SD, protecting against tyranny and foreign invasion.
That you want to play gun games with yours is irrelevant to the argument.
Glenn E Meyer said:There is process called concept formation and part is the core identity of the object. The core identity of the EBR is as a weapon to the vast majority of folks and that core concept is the reason for its protection. That is not true for most knives, blunt instruments or firestarters. Their use as weapons is secondary.
The sporting or game use of the EBR is secondary. In fact, the organized sporting use (as compared to shooting a rock at the ranch) are derivatives of training to use lethal force.
That's why MSR is stupid as a defense to keeping a very dangerous item.
rr said:You may call them Modern Rifle, but the Sports part of it is not why it's a right.
rr said:It's saying that this device, this sporting impliment, has more legitimatacy than owning it for its weapon use.
rr said:Any non-constitutionally guaranteed sports toy can be taken away whenever someone in government thinks that they are too dangerous.
RR said:Keep insisting that the rifle is for sporting purposes and you find yourself or your children playing with BB guns.
RR said:The anti-gun movement love to highlight us as grown-ups playing with their toys, and the MSR reinforces that.
RR said:I know we all enjoy recreating with our rifles. That is the activity that almost all of us use it for, but recreation isn't what gives us the right to own them.
RR said:I agree, honestly I do; but, I don't want to stray from the fundamental reason that gives us the right to own them.
You know, I think that is actually kind of catchy in a comical 'screw the anti-gunners' kind of way. Like Freedom Fries. I could see it catching on.Freedom Sticks
Yeah, the problem is I've stood next to a clay shooter holding a highly engraved nickel coated semi-auto shotgun that can spew 100+ 22 caliber projectiles as fast as a fll auto AR can dump a mag, while he tells me there is no place in a civilized society for AR type rifles.Get msr's in the people's hand and build an army of people with a common American mindset.
JW062 said:Yeah, the problem is I've stood next to a clay shooter holding a highly engraved nickel coated semi-auto shotgun...
JW062 said:You know, I think that is actually kind of catchy in a comical 'screw the anti-gunners' kind of way. Like Freedom Fries. I could see it catching on.Freedom Sticks