The Spiller & Burr Revolver

[Smokin_Gun]

pocket police is 47001 in 1873

Thanks Hawg, I can rest easy now ... the suspence was killin' me

Were'd ya find that, and can you run a trace on Euroarms/ASP or ASM SN 96656? Or tell me where I might look, I'm purdy seacrched out on that number.

Thanks Man,

SG

 

[Hawg]

You can look up Colt, Browning and Winchester numbers at proofhouse http://proofhouse.com/

Italian guns don't go by serial numbers, they go by date codes. You can look them up at bluebook. http://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf

 

[Riot Earp]

The following is an excerpt from from http://www.7thtexas.info/english/arms_in_7th_texas.htm :

For infantry officers the standard armament consisted of a revolver and a saber. However, sources do not reveal which models were used in the 7th Texas, with one exception: In 1864 several of the regiment's officers purchased Spiller & Burr revolvers from the army's arsenal in Macon, Georgia. Spiller & Burr made a copy of the Whitney cal. .36 "Navy" revolver, with a brass frame. Generally speaking, though, Colt and Colt-copies were the most common revolvers in the CS army, and infantry officers tended to prefer cal. .36 ("Navy") models. Thus, chances are that some of these would have been used by officers in the 7th Texas Infantry.

Assuming that they weren't surrendered to Union troops, one or more of these S&Bs might have returned with their owners to Texas after the War.

Here's a Western short story that is relevant to this thread:
http://www.deltablues.net/west1.html

 

[Indian Outlaw]

Interesting that they preferred .36s over .44s

Nice story. An ivory-gripped Spiller & Burr'sie? A bit of narrative license there. Ha ha.

Cimmaron Lawman, you can order 24/7 from Dixie via their webpage. I hope they have at least three in stock (one fer me & two fer you).

 

[Riot Earp]

Real or replica?

 

[Indian Outlaw]

Real.

 

[sundance44s]

Nice

 

[Riot Earp]

Looks real, right?

It's a replica. At least, that's what Heritage Auction Galleries claimed. It sold for a whopping $51.00 U.S.

 

[Hawg]

In my opinion it's real. If it's a clone who made it?

 

[Riot Earp]

I'm not sure. The top of the barrel reads: "1861 E. Whitney .36 Caliber"

I want a replica but have heard that the Palmettos are junk. I wish Pietta and/or Uberti would make one. I think they would sell.

 

[Hawg]

It's a dang good looking replica whoever made it. The barrel on most Whitney's reads E. Whitney N. Haven.

 

[rommer25]

Maybe the nipples would tell if it's real

The treads on a nipple might tell you if it's real or copy: just a thought. My Spiller & Burr take the standard size, the same as my Remingtons. I don't know who made it. I brought it as a kit back around 1970. It cost me about $18.00.

 

[pohill]

I think mine might have been a kit, too. Does yours have any numbers or marks at all? This might sound dumb, but do imported gun kits, or the barrels in a kit, have to be proofed where they're made?

 

[rommer25]

Just 175

The numbers 175 on the underside of the barrel and on the brass under the grips. The barrel had Black Powder Only and Cal. 36. As I recall, these were the only markings. I did replace the front sight with a blade one.

If you look real close, you can see a brass spacer I had to put behind the barrel a couple of years ago. I took the barrel off and when I put it back on, the sight was no longer 90 degrees to the frame. I had to but a small washer and file it to fit. It did not effect the accuracy.

 

[mykeal]

do imported gun kits, or the barrels in a kit, have to be proofed where they're made?

Yes. In fact, barrels are the only part proofed and they are proofed separately regardless of whether they're part of a kit or to be used in a finished gun.

 

[pohill]

Interesting. What about the cylinders?
Also, do you know if there is any formula for the size of a power charge used in a proofing? (over load or under load) I know it's like test driving a car, but do they do it around the neighborhood or on the Indy track?

 

[Hawg]

Original Remington Beals or clone?

 

[sundance44s]

Original Remmie ./ or the grips are anyway .

 

[Riot Earp]

It ain't a Beals 'cause the hammer and loading lever web are wrong.

It looks like an old Uberti, from the 60's or early 70's, that's been beat up.

 

[madcratebuilder]

There are a lot of very well done fakes out there. So well that they fool the experts. Some that have required metallurgy testing to determine the age. With the price of some of these old guns there is a lot of incentive to build a fake. Looking at a 800X600 pixel photo on a monitor ain't going to tell you much, except obvious errors.