The sickness has set in... advice needed

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BigMikey76

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I was warned. As I went through the process of buying my first handgun, many people told me that they are like potato chips - you won't be able to stop at one. Now, after only a couple of weeks and just two range trips with my new pistol, I am feeling the need to get another one. Don't get me wrong, I am loving my Millennium G2, but I want another gun to give me options. Also, my wife has pretty much told me that she is going to steal the G2 from me.

So here I am, once again faced with the conundrum of what to buy. I have pretty much narrowed it down to the CZ P-07 and the S&W SD9VE. Both have positive and negative aspects. The SD9VE is appealing because it is less expensive and extremely simple. The P-07 is appealing because I like SA/DA and, let's face it, its just sexier than the SD9VE. Also, the big trigger guard on the P-07 looks like it would be better for cold weather carry - more room for gloves, and all.

What are your thoughts?
 
The CZ P-07 is one of the best polymer guns on the market regardless of price. I've got around 3K rounds through mine without failure. It's insanely accurate and soft shooting and as mentioned above, utterly reliable.
 
Between the two you list, it would be the P-07 for me, in Gen 2 form.

The P-07 will have a superior trigger to the SD. It is user configurable for Decocker function, or safety for cocked and lock carry. Comfortable to hold, and easy on recoil.


If you want to include other pistols, someone mentioned the XD... The standard XD can be had for $350 right now. Only one mag though... They are good pistols, I owned one. A little heavier than other similar poly pistols, but that aids in a softer shooting package. Trigger is decent.

The new Canik Tp9 in its DA/SA form is said to be an excellent pistol for a good price as well. But being a new product may limit holster options and the like.
 
The new Canik Tp9 in its DA/SA form is said to be an excellent pistol for a good price as well. But being a new product may limit holster options and the like.
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Just to add there are several variants of the original reliable CZ design and many more options to choose from including Tanfoglio and Sarsilmaz. As well as steel frame and Polymer frames. Not to mention that there are a few Witness (Tanfoglio) holsters that fit the Canik, Sar (certain models) and Witness pistols.

BLackhawk makes them, Safariland makes them, Fobis makes them...Check here FE http://www.opticsplanet.com/holsters-eaa.html
 
I have seen the CZ clones... EAA makes a good one.

The other clones work well, but I find their overall "finish" lacking. The parts seem just shy of the level of finished of other pistols.

So they work well, but they seem less refined, which is one way they can cost less.
 
FWIW, I've been really happy with my SD40VE. I haven't had a chance to shoot the CZ so I can't compare, but people seem to love them.

I bought the Smith to take on camping trips and trips to the range. I've found it's possible to carry it concealed but it's a little bulky for that purpose. But if you just want a simple workhorse of a gun, I think it fits the bill.
 
As a big CZ fan here's what I would recommend, and definitely do your own research on these.

For a 'do it all' gun, (range, home defense, carry, etc.) I'd recommend the CZ P-07, CZ P-01, and CZ PCR. All great, based on a proven design with good holster selection and factory support.

For a full size steel gun strictly for range and home defense, I'd recommend the CZ SP-01, SP-01 Tactical, CZ-75, or CZ-75BD. If you can handle the weight and size you can carry these, but most people find the lighter compact CZ's easier to carry. These are fantastic full size 9mm platforms though!
 
You mentioned that you prefer DA/SA, and the bigger trigger guard for gloved shooting - both of which are very practical and important concerns - but you didn't mention ergonomics. Which gun just feels better in your hand? I think that about 80% of accuracy and felt recoil comes down to ergonomics - a more comfortable gun will be more accurate and feel like it recoils less.

I'm a CZ loyalist and will always encourage people to try them out but it really comes down to which gun feels better in your hand. That said, I know price is a concern, but if you really feel like splurging, you can get the Pro-Grade P-07 from Cajun Gun Works...
 
I don't know anything about the cz but I have been very pleased with my S & W SD9VE. I know the trigger is a little heavy but to me that's a good thing on a concealed weapon that doesn't have a manual safety. The simplicity is amazing. Open it up and you would think you were looking at a much more expensive Glock 19. S & W has to pay Glock a royalty on each one for a reason. The cheapest I have seen them has been $279 but I missed that sale and got mine for $289.99. They are readily found for just over $300.
 
narrowed it down to the CZ P-07 and the S&W SD9VE. Both have positive and negative aspects. The SD9VE is appealing because it is less expensive and extremely simple. The P-07 is appealing because I like SA/DA and, let's face it, its just sexier than the SD9VE.
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I will take just this quoted part and base my answer upon it--

Between those two, I would choose the P-07 but I find both of them to be quite homely looking... though I would agree that the SD9VE is a little more homely looking. The Smith & Wesson is a high quality pistol and I believe these are fantastic guns for the price point -- especially for the kinds of people who feel the need to own a gun but do not have the desire to become gun-loving and very active recreational shooters. The pistol is quite limited by it's trigger and it's also not like the secondary market is bursting with holsters and accessories for it.

Even still, you said you also leaned toward the P-07 because you like DA/SA and while this arrangement is simply NOT what is popular and all-the-rage these days, I grew up on it and I like it also. Myself, I don't necessarily tend to USE the double action, but that is because I don't put my DA/SA guns in a defensive role (I shoot them for fun and enjoyment) so I simply tend to shoot them single action only.

In any case, I think you should spend less money and GET MORE GUN by going DA/SA, and plucking a used Smith & Wesson 5906 from the market. Many of these were law enforcement issued and they are showing up for extremely good prices and they quite simply fantastic handguns. Even one showing a lot of exterior wear is, IMO of course, better looking than either of the two discussed in this thread.
 
BigMikey76 said:
I was warned. As I went through the process of buying my first handgun, many people told me that they are like potato chips - you won't be able to stop at one. Now, after only a couple of weeks and just two range trips with my new pistol, I am feeling the need to get another one. . . .

What are your thoughts?
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I think that if you're looking to break the cycle of this particular addiction, you've come to the wrong place. We're a horrible support group. ;)
 
Though I just recommended an XD over the P-07, I would want a P-07 over the SD9. I have owned all three. The factory trigger on the SD9 is godawful, while even DA the CZ is accurate, nice.

There are aftermarket spring kits for the SD (Galloway Precision?) but I would worry about reliability with those. Some wouldn't.

Except for its HORRIBLE long, heavy trigger, the SD9 is pretty nice, and well-made for the price.
 
You will love love love the P-07. Accurate, reliable, easy on the budget and without question the best DA/SA option out there for the money.

I have the 09 in 9mm and really want a 07 in 40 since I don't have a 40 at the moment. But then again I hope to get the G20 so a 07 in 9 may be my better option.
 
Everyone complains about the SD trigger but I just never really understood the problem. It's not as heavy as people act like it is. And it smooths out pretty fast. I guess it just seems like shooting a DA revolver to me. And that's kind of how I like it on a gun with no external safety.
 
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