The nature of money

Thanks for the great replies. I've half posted some of this to find out how you guys would react, and half because I'm still young and haven't fully decided where I sit on these issues.

I still think there is something fundementally flawed with the mainstream concept of money, but I'm still not sure on all the details of that.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Total cost to them of filing the patent Less than $100.[/quote]

Is that just the cost to get a patent, or is that the cost to merely file for one? Everyone around here I have talked to that has gotten patents claim that it cost them around 5000 dollars for theirs.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If you want to patent your new gun design, then do it. If you want to sell your idea to a manufacturer the most simple way is to get them to sign a non-disclosure statement. Which in effects says that once you show them your idea that they can’t tell anyone else about it or patent it without your consent. You can also find copies of this type of an agreement in the library. I know of one client (I’m a CPA) who went to over 30 different manufactures with an idea, before he got one to even sign his agreement. But that one did purchase his idea. He now gets 12 ½% royalties.[/quote]

My plan is to patent the idea, if possible, and then contract the manufacturing rights to an existing manufacturer. I've got a design that does what 800 dollar select fire weapons do, and does it with 3 moving parts, and 3 springs. Not only that, there's only one part that even remotely intricate. I think I can sell this thing, but until I get well that's probably not happening. Assuming I recover at some point, I'll have to do some research into how much of the profits I should ask for.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I know a lot of people who say that Bill Gates has way to much money.[/quote]

Bill Gates was a bad example for me to bring into this conversation. I have worked enough with the computer industry to be very sure they had a monopoly over just about everything PC and quite a bit over everything Mac. They've really done a lot to hold the platform down, and a lot to elevate it, but they've also made it hell to get a foot in the door. I don't believe Bill Gates really did fairly earn his money. I suppose that's why he's a bad example to bring into this, or perhaps that makes him a good example. I'm not sure.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>My friend, you are a product of liberal propaganda. The Liberal left wants you to resent these people. It makes their job of passing tax increases and en-slaving the people much easier.[/quote]

Well it hasn't worked quite correctly with me. I dislike oppressive government at least as much as I dislike oppressive corporations. As much as I like free capitalism, I also don't like monopolies. What the balance between business and government should be, is hard to decide for certain, perhaps that's why things aren't perfect yet though ;)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I personally believe that an unequal distribution of wealth is natural in a free and competitive market. Systems which use opression to try to remove this inequality invariably destroy wealth; they cannot create it. So people are only truly equal, in the way you are looking at it, when they are crushed into equal poverty (as in the former Soviet Union).[/quote]

I'm hardly advocating everyone making the same.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
Dangus:

The $100 is for the filing fee, they did everything else themselves. The major cost of filing a patent is the reseach to see if someone else already has patented that Idea. It can be done by an individual, but it takes time, not money.

If you are serious about filing a patent, I did a quick search on the internet and came up with this site. http://www.mcneight.com/ They are a law firm, but tells you about the process and also provides links to the patent office where you can do on-line patent research. You can do most of the leg work yourself.

Have fun...



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
Dangus,

If you were to start a new thread with a title like "Patent Help Needed", you might be able to benefit from the collective brainpower of TFL. There are lawyers and business owners here who have experience in turning ideas into money.

I'd like to help, but I don't have a clue. :)
 
My observations of what really holds value:

1. Land. They're not making any more of it. It can produce something from very little. If you plant corn, your land will produce wealth from that corn (assuming the government will get out of farming. Farmers are an interesting bunch. When times are bad they love the government, when times are good, they cuss the government). My father taught us to never sell guns or property unless to acquire more or better guns or property.
2. Guns. Guns keep their value not just as a collector item, but because of their usefulness. You can always bet that a quality firearm will hold a certain degree of value.
3. Harley Davidson motorcycles. I don't own one yet, but have you ever noticed what they ask for a used Harley is more than when the guy bought it new? Look into the classifieds and see for yourself. Unless you wreck it, it will sell for more than what you paid.

There are lots of intangible things that you pay for but are priceless. Kids, good dogs, and education, and many other things that make life better. I can't sell my dog, kids or education, but they make me happy. My life is enriched by having them. They're worth all the expense!

Money and wealth are what you see them to be. I am a very wealthy man. I have the most awesome wife you could imagine. She challenges me to be a better person, and she sets the standard. She's fun to be around still. My son is a healthy and bright 1 year old. He is so very curious that I spend most of my days keeping him full of new stuff to explore. He's quick with a smile and a laugh. He has total faith in me, and I can see it when he looks at me. I have a small house, and lots of family that love me. Can even the richest of men claim all of that? When a wealthy man dies, most of the concern is about the will. When a happy man dies, the concern is about what a great man he was. You tell me...
 
Matt, when I finish perfecting everything on the marker, then I'll definitely have to seek some wised advice here. That's a good idea. Because I've been so sick I've not gotten much down on that, or the big software project I'm working on(making a part of an upcoming game that will be in the hands of thousands of people hopefully), but things are starting to get better.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me

Compromising the right position only makes you more wrong.
 
My brother was in the pest control industry during his college years. While working on the pumps, he figured out a better way of doing things, so he just rigged all of his company's pumps with the same gaget he invented. He never really did much with the idea but someone else did. Now every pest control pump in the industry has that little gaget, and if he had known this, he might have tried to make a profit from it. He's just happy to have contributed something that made the industry safer.
 
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